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  • #247275
    Pound
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      I have myself a new project. My grandpa’s old 1958 Crestliner and a new to the family 1959 Johnson 35hp. I’d like to work on the Johnson over the winter to get it ready for next boating season. The motor has been sitting for 15 years but was indoors looks well cared for. I plan to replace the impeller and gearbox oil first. What else should I do? I was told it ran when it was parked.

      #247279
      crosbyman
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        carb overall likely needed but you c an always fire it up to try it. IF stored full of fuel carb (s) gunk is expected . RIngs may be stuck give it a shot of wd40 in the plug holes and try to turn it over

        old style carbs …easy to take apart and clean

        coils likely all cracked and need replacement point condensers need servicing
        http://www.leeroysramblings.com/johnson_magneto.htm

        check compression check gear oil for water intrusion DO NOT REMOVE THE SMALL Philips head screw !!

        http://www.leeroysramblings.com/overview%20of%20repairing%20OB.htm

        see RD models for johnson …
        http://www.marineengine.com/parts/johnson-evinrude-parts.php?year=1959&hp=35

        as a member of AOMCI you would have access to a free copy of the Johnson maintenance manual to service your oldy see pics from book

        great hobby restoring these oldies … do not be discouraged if issues come up

        Joining AOMCI has priviledges 🙂

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        #247290
        Buccaneer
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          I’d replace the old fuel lines. You don’t want your first ride to end in a great conflagration!

          Prepare to be boarded!

          #247292
          outbdnut2
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            In addition to what Crosbyman’s good advice, what you have already planned to do; there are some grease fittings on and near the transom clamps to lubricate the tilt and pivot hinges. Since you have a boat with a steering wheel, make sure the steering tension adjustment on the motor is adjusted loose. Clean or put in new spark plugs. Make sure the gas tank is clean and the fuel line and connectors are in good shape. Old fuel line connectors have a O-ring seal inside that gets had and leaks. New connectors are readily available, but beware of metric connectors that look much the same made for Yamahas and some Mercurys.

            Did you get a wiring harness with solenoid box, ignition key switch, and choke switch for the motor? It plugs into the starboard side. Note the motor will rope start without all that if there is no harness plugged in, as the key in the off position shorts the points together, so if it’s not there, the motor will start by rope. If you need a harness, check E-Bay and Craigslist and/or post a “Wanted” ad on the classified board here.

            Your Crestliner looks like a Voyager14, which should have the nice splashwell in back. The snaps on the windshield indicate it originally came with a convertible top. Great that you have your Grandpa’s boat! My Dad bought one of those new in 1958 when I was 11 years old. He traded it in 1984. About 5 years ago I bought another one like it. Your boat originally would have had a red hull and decks with sides above the splashrails painted gray. Gray inside also above the floor. 1958 was the first year of the Crestliner Flying Crest logo sticker on the sides. There used to be a good retrocrestliner website for restorers, but it went down many months ago. There is a facebook site called “Vintage Crestliner Boats” that you can join.

            This site link will get you to remnants of the old retrocrestliner site that still exist on the web, but not everything you click on will be there: https://web.archive.org/web/20190421202623/http://www.retrocrestliner.com/

            That boat will do well with that 35 Johnson. I have run 30, 40, and V4 60 HP on Dad’s old boat and now have a 40 on my current Crestliner. It’s rated for 60, but the weight of the motor screwed up handling some. I think 35 – 40 HP is ideal. It’s a light boat so you will want a high pitch prop, unless you are carrying heavy loads most of the time.
            Dave
            Here is my current boat with a 1959 35 Lark – 1957, but same boat, except no convertible top snaps and 1957 logo on the side: [/url]

            #247303
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              Thanks for the advice. I’ll put carburetor and coils on the list of things to go through. The motor came with a all the wiring and a set of controls and some steering components (pulleys etc). The boat is set up with a little Evinrude 6hp that I can also try my luck on. I’m excited for the project. The boat is a 14′ Viking.

              Dave are you the same guy that helped me out in the Crestliner Facebook group?

              I’ve noticed these brackets on some of the old Johnson and Evinrud motors. What are they for?

              #247305
              outbdnut2
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                Yes, I think I helped you out on the Crestliner facebook group page. There I go by my real name, Dave Stanton.

                Those brackets are for lifting the motor – Use them for tilting it if it’s on a trailer or if you are standing in the water. They are also helpful when putting the motor on and off the boat. If you are setting the motor horizontal on a garage floor, they make it harder to tip the motor over. A lot of them were removed and thrown out because they get in the way of handling water ski ropes.

                The 14 foot Viking and Voyager shared the same hull in 1957-58. Note that in the old catalogs, the Voyager14 convertible in 1958 was called a Viking14 convertible in 1957 – same exact boat, except for the updated flying crest emblems in 1958. The 1958 catalogs show the 1957 Crestliner emblems on the side because the catalog photos were taken in 1957 before the new emblem stickers were available. My current boat is a 1957, and technically a Viking that year, but the catalog doesn’t show my version with splashwell that is not a convertible – maybe special order? or just didn’t make it into the catalog? Generally, the Voyager14s are the same as the Viking, but have the splashwell.
                Dave

                #247865
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                  My dad delivered the boat this week and it fits perfectly in my garage. It came with a 1970 Evinrude 6hp fisherman. My research indicates that it uses the same electrical system as the 1959 Johnson. It turns over and looks super clean under the cowl.

                  My plan is to fog them both up this weekend. Then I’ll tinker with them over the winter. First frost here today.

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