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    Mark Wakenshaw
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      I’m in search of one of these tags. Any leads on where to get one.

      Retired OMC and Yamaha Master Tech.. 43 years in the business.

      #284864
      lyks2tinkr
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        Good morning.

        What model Elto is it from?

        Not sure if they are being recreated? I’ve seen them on Ebay from time to time.

        #284866
        Mark Wakenshaw
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          Good morning.

          What model Elto is it from?

          Not sure if they are being recreated? I’ve seen them on Ebay from time to time.

          it’s for a Mate. I’ve never seen them before and not sure what models they came with. I’ll check eBay. Thanks.

          Retired OMC and Yamaha Master Tech.. 43 years in the business.

          #284874
          The Boat House
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            The following was posted by Garry Spencer. For those who may not know Garrys
            dad worked for OMC in it’s infancy and got to run many of these early motors when
            they were new. Some passably before they were even available to the public.
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            N O A Horse Power Tag.
            In the “Roaring Twenties” (Under water exhausts were rare – 8^D ) it was discovered horse power sold motors. Engineering departments fiddled with the prototypes to get the maximum possible. Unfortunately production motors were not as carefully assembled. This led to most outboards over 4 horse power falling far short of there advertised rating. Sniping by competitors and complaints from customers led to the outboard builders forming the National Outboard Association as a group to rate others motors horse power. Competitors representatives would come into the factory and randomly pick three motors off the assembly line. These were run in and adjusted. They were then put on a dynamometer and the horse power average (to the nearest tenth) of those three became the certified horse power for that model. In a single year (1933) some models lost 20% of there advertised horse power. This rating method continued through the war years of the mid ’40s. It was virtually destroyed by Carl Kiekhaefer who refused to join, and found great commercial success in under rating his Mercury outboards. So ratings became more a product of the advertising department until the Federal Government copied a European trend, and mandated uniform power measurements taken at the propeller shaft.
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            In the dawn of outboard use, manufacturing was, of course, rather primitive. Measurements could change by how tight a production worker screwed there micrometer. Precision we take for granted today was totally unknown back then. This was also true in the oil & gasoline industry. Motors had to be designed to work under the worse conditions encountered. The fuel you bought today might be different from that bought last week, even though coming from the same gas station. Ole Evinrude was a great engineer and tireless craftsman. In the beginning (First 50 outboards) he built and tested each motor. To make his products easy to use, he attached a metal tag to the fuel adjustment needle valve indicating the adjustment needed for optimal starting and reliable operation. This continued until production accuracy allowed for the adjustments to be incorporated into the engine.

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            #284904
            Mark Wakenshaw
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              Great info. Thanks!

              Retired OMC and Yamaha Master Tech.. 43 years in the business.

              #284906
              Donald Keller
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                The following was posted by Garry Spencer. For those who may not know Garrys
                dad worked for OMC in it’s infancy and got to run many of these early motors when
                they were new. Some passably before they were even available to the public.
                .
                N O A Horse Power Tag.
                In the “Roaring Twenties” (Under water exhausts were rare – 8^D ) it was discovered horse power sold motors. Engineering departments fiddled with the prototypes to get the maximum possible. Unfortunately production motors were not as carefully assembled. This led to most outboards over 4 horse power falling far short of there advertised rating. Sniping by competitors and complaints from customers led to the outboard builders forming the National Outboard Association as a group to rate others motors horse power. Competitors representatives would come into the factory and randomly pick three motors off the assembly line. These were run in and adjusted. They were then put on a dynamometer and the horse power average (to the nearest tenth) of those three became the certified horse power for that model. In a single year (1933) some models lost 20% of there advertised horse power. This rating method continued through the war years of the mid ’40s. It was virtually destroyed by Carl Kiekhaefer who refused to join, and found great commercial success in under rating his Mercury outboards. So ratings became more a product of the advertising department until the Federal Government copied a European trend, and mandated uniform power measurements taken at the propeller shaft.
                .
                In the dawn of outboard use, manufacturing was, of course, rather primitive. Measurements could change by how tight a production worker screwed there micrometer. Precision we take for granted today was totally unknown back then. This was also true in the oil & gasoline industry. Motors had to be designed to work under the worse conditions encountered. The fuel you bought today might be different from that bought last week, even though coming from the same gas station. Ole Evinrude was a great engineer and tireless craftsman. In the beginning (First 50 outboards) he built and tested each motor. To make his products easy to use, he attached a metal tag to the fuel adjustment needle valve indicating the adjustment needed for optimal starting and reliable operation. This continued until production accuracy allowed for the adjustments to be incorporated into the engine.

                Great info..thankyou

                #284907
                The Boat House
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                  This is a fuel mixture tag Garry speaks of
                  that would be attached to the mixture screw
                  of a new motor .
                  Some what harder to find than the NOA tag.
                  Tubs
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