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    Aidan Smith
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      Hello! I have recently acquired what I believe to be a 1936 Neptune  OB64. Would anyone be able to tell me anything about this? I have heard that the magneto in these is fickle. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

       

      Aidan Smith

      "Shells sink, dreams float. Life's good on our boat."
      1921 Elto Light Twin
      1923 Evinrude Model N Sportwin
      1930 Johnson F-50
      1956 Johnson JW-12R
      1956 Johnson CD-13A

      #297306
      Waunnaboat
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        Neptunes are for the most part well-built. I would check for spark and clean out the gas tank and carburator, then put new grease in the lower unit.  Like most outboards, if it has spark + compression and is complete it will probably be fixable.

        "Outboards seem to multiply exponentially..........I find that for every finished project, there are two more waiting to be completed."

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        #297307
        Aidan Smith
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          What is the best grease to use in the L/U’s of these older motors? I have heard everything from traditional hypoid to John Deere corn header grease, and I ma not sure what to run. I ran just plain old general purpose grease in my Rudder Twin, Rangers, and the like, and have never had issues, but I presume there is a better solution. Thanks!

           

          "Shells sink, dreams float. Life's good on our boat."
          1921 Elto Light Twin
          1923 Evinrude Model N Sportwin
          1930 Johnson F-50
          1956 Johnson JW-12R
          1956 Johnson CD-13A

          #297308
          Waunnaboat
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            I have not had my motors for a long time, and only just got around to getting grease.  Previously, I had used oil just to test run them with the intention of later getting grease.  I ordered some of the John Deere Corn Head Grease and I intend to use this in my motors due to it’s availability.  Hypoid will leak out faster than you can replace on outboards unless the lower unit is specifically labeled for oil.  that Johnson you have probably takes hypoid, and if it does, it would be labeled on the lower unit by the fill hole.  I have a 1945 Neptune 2 hp and I used oil in it just to test it and it is extremely leeky even with a new gasket.  That is why I am switching to grease.  From past forums, I have read that John Deere is supposed to work well.  I would rather go with a grease that I heard works well than general purpose grease, as general purpose is probably intended for lower heat situations.  John Deere Corn Head Grease as well as any sort of trailer bearing grease would probably work better, as they are intended for higher head purposes such as an LU gearbox.

            "Outboards seem to multiply exponentially..........I find that for every finished project, there are two more waiting to be completed."

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            #297314
            Aidan Smith
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              Yes, the Johnson has hypoid in it. I have yet to get around to cleaning the Neptune, as I picked it up yesterday. I plan on using corn header grease in the LU, but I’m not quite sure how I will go about getting it in there. I also need to figure out what type of tillotson carb is on it so I can see if I can find gaskets.

              "Shells sink, dreams float. Life's good on our boat."
              1921 Elto Light Twin
              1923 Evinrude Model N Sportwin
              1930 Johnson F-50
              1956 Johnson JW-12R
              1956 Johnson CD-13A

              #297316
              Waunnaboat
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                I could not find gaskets for my Neptune at the time I was fixing it up a few months ago (or gasket material was way cheaper; I can’t remember which).  If you buy gasket material and cut it yourself you can probably save some time searching for gaskets as well as some money.  To get the grease in, I would take off the prop assembly, pack in grease, then put the prop assembly back on.  After that, you can take a grease gun and inject it through the grease LU hole while turning over the engine to make sure no spots are missed.  Gasket material is cheap off of Amazon or Ebay, but buying premade gaskets for rare-ish motors such as Neptunes will end up costing a lot of time and money to find when you could buy some material to last you through multiple motors.   You also then have gasket material on hand and do not have to wait for premade gaskets when you get another project and want to get it running.

                "Outboards seem to multiply exponentially..........I find that for every finished project, there are two more waiting to be completed."

                #297327
                Tubs
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                  What to use in early gear cases without seals and why https://youtu.be/dAu2-zYmgGc?si=SCCnA6Rvhox_NvD7

                  A "Boathouse Repair" is one thats done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

                  #297346
                  jeff-register
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                    Like Tubs said make your oun. I cleaned the part & used my copy mach to get a pattern. Tryed with my computer scabber but it was correct size, chaned it just a little. maybe your newer scanner works better!
                    Leave extra materal when possabe & trim after assembly.

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                    #297347
                    Tubs
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                      Here is a link to an old video of what I use to make gaskets. It’s mostly what I have in my tool box. The hole punches are Harbor Fright. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0FrFA__n00

                      A "Boathouse Repair" is one thats done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

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                      #297349
                      Bob Wight
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                        Nice video, Tubs.   Thanks for sharing.

                        Bob

                        1937 Champion D2C Deluxe Lite Twin
                        1954 Johnson CD-11
                        1955 Johnson QD-16
                        1957 Evinrude Fastwin 18
                        1957 Evinrude 3022
                        1958 Johnson QD-19
                        1958 Johnson FD-12
                        1959 Johnson QD-20

                        “Every 20 minute job is only a broken bolt away from a 3-day project.”
                        "Every time you remove a broken or seized bolt an angel gets his wings."

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