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  • #244968
    Buccaneer
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      Found a nasty surprise when I got to the poppet valve carb on the Ace.
      Anyone successfully repair a mess like this, and if so, how?

      Looks like a P.O. used some type of epoxy in a past repair attempt.
      Thanks for any ideas.

      As a back up plan, I guess I need to look for another carb.

      Ace-carb

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      #244983
      Mumbles
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        I’ll bet that carb was dripping when you put fuel in it!

        #244998
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          I never put fuel in it, as the spark plug wire was extra toasty.
          I’m pretty sure if would have leaked though!
          Just have to finish cleaning the gas tank and then the carb
          is the only thing left for a test start.

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          #245007
          joecb
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            Bucc, I know that you are really handy with repairs, but I think that that carb is a gone -er.

            Joe B

            #245016
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              Bucc, I know that you are really handy with repairs, but I think that that carb is a gone -er.

              Joe B

              Joe, I agree, but desperation brings innovation,
              or most likely frustration!

              I have a box of old lawnmower carbs……. maybe
              I make an adapter plate…… I’m afraid none
              of them are “poppet” valve carbs though!

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              #245018
              Tubs
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                Avast Cap’n, me thinks ye needs to
                set down the grog, take a few dubloons
                from the chest, raise the jolly roger,
                and set sail for the mainland to pillage
                some scurvy dogs booty. This lily-livered
                landlubber checked me coffer and alass
                matie, me have none.
                Tubs

                A "Boathouse Repair" is one thats done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

                #245046
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                  Tubs, want ad was posted yesterday. More than likely I’ll be waiting
                  by the photo like the Maytag repair man.
                  In the mean time, I’m attempting a “Red Green” repair on the old carb
                  so I can see if it’s going to run! …….. just have to find the duct tape!

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                  #245047
                  Monte NZ
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                    You might think I’m going nuts coming up with this suggestion, but going on my successful use of JB Weld,
                    I would be tempted to clean the broken surfaces and build the casting up and if you have the taps required,
                    rethread where the brass elbow is screwed in and the brass bung and filter are fitted

                    The float valve area wouldn’t be affected going on the photo.

                    Monte NZ
                    PS Here we go again!
                    Covid has just been discovered in Auckland again after being clear for about 6 mths, so again the country is in lockdown level 4………..not sure where it came in.

                    #245048
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                      Monte, I have an idea in progress in fixing the carb, but also found a used carb
                      on Ebay about an hour ago. Will go ahead and finish my attempted fix
                      so I can try to fire it up before the replacement carb arrives.

                      I put a few 1/8″ NPT threads into the old fuel passage, just below the float needle.
                      I then threaded the end of some 3/8″ brass tubing about 1-1/4″ long to screw
                      into the fuel passage. On the side of this brass tubing I silver soldered
                      a piece of the fitting that the 3/16″ tubing from the gas tank will attach to.
                      On the bottom of the brass tube I threaded it to accept a cap, so one can
                      still install or remove the needle.

                      After all that I silver soldered around the broken out area of the old casting
                      to secure the whole mess in place. Tomorrow I’ll do some “prettying up” of the
                      solder, and test if further sealing is needed for no leaks, or if I wasted a half of a day, lol.

                      I finished cleaning the inside of the tank today as well, so perhaps I may
                      be able to see if it’s going to run soon!

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                      #245058
                      Monte NZ
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                        I can see you have been a busy boy Buc…….looks good! Hopefully there aren’t any leaks, but if there are, I’m sure
                        you will be able to fix them………..it’s all good fun!
                        At least it will prove that the carb works until the one on ebay arrives.

                        Interesting how the rest of the motor looks in nice condition.

                        Monte NZ

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