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    Tubs
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      Im impressed that you were able to get the
      solder to stick to the carb. body. tell us more!!!
      Tubs

      A "Boathouse Repair" is one thats done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

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      #245102
      Buccaneer
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        Tubs, I have no idea how well the silver solder bonded to the carb casting,
        but the brass tube I inserted was threaded into the area just below the
        float pin seat, so the solder was basically to stabilize everything.
        I filled up the float bowl with mineral spirits, and it didn’t leak after an
        hour, but after running the motor, the compression fitting is weeping.
        Hopefully the replacement carb is in good shape, and the fittings all
        come apart!

        Video posted a the “Current Projects” thread………
        https://www.aomci.org/forums/topic/1938-evinrude-elto-ace-4256-1-8-hp-project/#post-245104

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        #245118
        joecb
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          Bucc, the stuff that you are calling “silver solder” , what is it? It’s surly not what is commonly called silver solder. What I know as silver solder, is hard solder, melting point at a red heat..

          Joe B

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            Bucc, the stuff that you are calling “silver solder” , what is it? It’s surly not what is commonly called silver solder. What I know as silver solder, is hard solder, melting point at a red heat..

            Joe B

            Plain old silver solder on a roll. I used a little bottle torch

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            #245130
            Tubs
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              This stuff?

              A "Boathouse Repair" is one thats done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

              #245131
              Buccaneer
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                Tubs, Yep, that’s the stuff.
                As I said before, I’m not saying it bonds to pot metal, but
                it worked great as a stabilizer / filler around the brass tube
                I screwed into the bottom of the carb.

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                #245144
                Mumbles
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                  Did you consider using Belzona for this repair? It’s as tough as nails and has saved my bacon many times!

                  #245150
                  Buccaneer
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                    Mumbles, I have some left over from shaft repair job, not sure it’s still good,
                    but that would have worked good no doubt.
                    I wasn’t too worried about the carb repair after I found a different one on EBay.

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                    #245165
                    joecb
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                      OK , thanks guys… always trying to learn here.
                      I was befuddled by the “silver solder” thing, because in common usage silver solder is a high temp (red heat ) hard solder. Wonderful stuff , joints as strong as brazing. I looked up the Oatley “silver safe flo solder” .. It is a low temp (420 – 460*F) soft solder designed to replace the old lead- tin alloy plumbing solder. The data sheet from Oakley says that it contains less that 2 % silver and no lead. It does not say what the primary metal in the alloy is. I suspect that there is tin and bismuth. Bismuth is the base for the various very low temp melting alloys like Cerrobend… you might recall the trick metal teaspoon that melts in your cup of coffee…bismuth .
                      As for sticking to the aluminum or pot metal of the carb housing, the lead-tin solders will stick but with great difficulty and scrupulous cleaning. I guess the the same would be true for the Oatley silver stuff.
                      The go to metal repair for aluminum or pot metal is the low temp solder sticks that the guys sell and demo at the flea markets, soldering alum beer cans. again takes refined technique and cleanliness, but will do good strong repairs.

                      And, in the way of schooling … what is Belzona?

                      Joe B .

                      #245166
                      Mumbles
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                        Belzona products are a line of super tough epoxies used for repairing just about anything. It’s expensive but leaves JB Weld and Marine-Tex epoxies in its wake!

                        Here’s some info on the Belzona 1111 which I use.

                        https://www.belzona.com/en/products/1000/1111.aspx

                        Belzona

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