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    Buccaneer
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      The replacement carb from EBay showed up a couple of days ago.
      It looked great, but the strainer plug, fuel inlet elbow, nor the adjustment
      needle would budge. I took apart what I could, and soaked it overnight
      in carb cleaner.
      The next morning the said items were still “stuck”, so I proceeded with
      penetrating oil, and careful heating with a little propane bottle torch.

      After a bit I got the strainer plug to move back and forth about 1/4 turn
      but no more. About the same time, the gas line “elbow” fitting loosened
      up easy, but I noticed a crack in the casting there.

      I ended up cutting the head of the strainer bolt off with a Dremel.
      The strainer bolt was “half” ate away, and there was material “welded”
      in the threads, from corrosion or galvanic action perhaps.

      I was able to collapse the rest of the strainer bolt and got it out.
      There’s not much “meat” in the casting between the fuel inlet
      and strainer threads where the meet up. Poor design and years
      of corrosion probably idled many of these motors.

      I wasn’t going to try soldering the crack in the casting, and the strainer
      hole threads were “iffy” even after cleaning them up with a tap.
      Therefore I made 7/16 x 20 bushing to screw into the original strainer hole,
      that has a 5/16″ x 24 hole in the center for a new strainer bolt with nice threads,
      and still allow the float needle to pass thru okay.

      The OD of the bushing and the fuel inlet fitting was “doped” up with JB Alumi Weld.
      Best thing I could find today. Not sure long term how it resist gasoline, but
      I’ve had some regular JB Weld on a “three wheeler” gas tank leak for years.

      Instead of using the old “elbow’ fitting on the carb inlet, I found a straight fitting
      to use, that will make it easier to unplug or rod out if ever needed.

      I previously put a brass strainer inside the gas tank, so one in the carb will not be needed.

      Hope to try it out in a day or two when the JB Weld is completely cured!

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      #245490
      Bob Wight
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        Nice fix – hopefully, the JB Weld will hold up.

        Bob

        1937 Champion D2C Deluxe Lite Twin
        1954 Johnson CD-11
        1955 Johnson QD-16
        1957 Evinrude Fastwin 18
        1957 Evinrude 3022
        1958 Johnson QD-19
        1958 Johnson FD-12
        1959 Johnson QD-20

        “Every 20 minute job is only a broken bolt away from a 3-day project.”
        "Every time you remove a broken or seized bolt an angel gets his wings."

        #245710
        Buccaneer
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          The JB Weld on the replacement carb and it’s repair, had cured for a few days, so decided to try it out.
          Looks like success to me!

          https://youtu.be/7wCtiD1kZ2w

          Prepare to be boarded!

          #245712
          Bob Wight
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            Runs great – glad the fix worked out!

            Bob

            1937 Champion D2C Deluxe Lite Twin
            1954 Johnson CD-11
            1955 Johnson QD-16
            1957 Evinrude Fastwin 18
            1957 Evinrude 3022
            1958 Johnson QD-19
            1958 Johnson FD-12
            1959 Johnson QD-20

            “Every 20 minute job is only a broken bolt away from a 3-day project.”
            "Every time you remove a broken or seized bolt an angel gets his wings."

            #245743
            Tubs
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              Way to keep em going. I know I have had
              a couple dozen of those carburetors over the
              years and have never seen either problem that
              you had. I have a 1 hp. project motor. I was
              planning on doing it this winter. Now you
              have got me worrying about what I might find
              if I do start on it.
              Tubs

              A "Boathouse Repair" is one thats done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

              #245744
              labrador-guy
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                Nice job there captain Buccaneer! I wonder if that carb part could be made on a 3D printer? Once there is a program a CNC could whip one out in no time. What fun is that you might ask!!! Thanks for sharing with us.

                dale

                #245745
                Buccaneer
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                  All I can say, if the carb fittings are stuck, avoid putting heat to it, soak
                  it plenty, and be patient. The castings are pretty thin around the fuel
                  inlet and strainer screen junction, and evidently like to corrode there
                  as well.

                  Prepare to be boarded!

                  #245746
                  Buccaneer
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                    Nice job there captain Buccaneer! I wonder if that carb part could be made on a 3D printer? Once there is a program a CNC could whip one out in no time. What fun is that you might ask!!! Thanks for sharing with us.

                    dale

                    Not that my machining skill are up to the task, but I’d rather try to make one out of a block of
                    aluminum on the milling machine. Not sure I’d be happy with one of those printers
                    taking all night to make a part, then have it buggered up, lol.

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