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  • #260462
    ml_mcm
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      Created new thread since I don’t really have a B1F

      Two questions

      1. my fuel tank is removed.  What needs to be removed in order to get it back on?  flywheel?  (I hope not because I already tried removing and it’s stubborn)
      2. Is this model one that uses grease for the lower unit or gear oil?

      Thanksmotor-1

      #260471
      ml_mcm
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        Edited question #2:

        2. I found a 1935-1940 manual that says use Texaco Outboard Gear Lubricant which they say is in a tube

        What is the equivalent of this?  I have some QuickSilver Marine Grease that I use on prop shaft but it is pretty thick.

        Is Lubriplate No. 105 Motor Assembly Grease correct?  It sounds like the same process as I do for changing lower unit oil

        Any help is appreciated

        ML

        • This reply was modified 3 years, 8 months ago by ml_mcm.
        #260480
        Bob Wight
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          Don’t use the Quicksilver grease.  The Texaco gear lube isn’t around anymore, so yes, you can use the Lubriplate 105.   Other option are John Deere cornhead grease or cotton picker spindle grease from Tractor Supply.    The Lubriplate and John Deere greases are grade #0 and the Tractor Supply product is a little thinner at grade #00.   I’m using the Tractor Supply grease in my ’37 Champion and it seems to work fine.

          Bob

          1937 Champion D2C Deluxe Lite Twin
          1954 Johnson CD-11
          1955 Johnson QD-16
          1957 Evinrude Fastwin 18
          1957 Evinrude 3022
          1958 Johnson QD-19
          1958 Johnson FD-12
          1959 Johnson QD-20

          “Every 20 minute job is only a broken bolt away from a 3-day project.”
          "Every time you remove a broken or seized bolt an angel gets his wings."

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          #260485
          ml_mcm
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            Thank you Bob.

            Also – Managed to get the tank back on. A little imagination and Tetris moves

            #260598
            ml_mcm
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              Tried to start this motor and did not fire.  Maybe a tiny bit when I put a little fuel mix in the cylinder

              My carb is a MS 85 C.  Wondering where I should start for adjustments

              i have a screw adjustment that has marking ‘Lean’ with a clockwise arrow on the carb throat cover

              I have a lever on the side.  I assume this is the choke. Up is choke? Or down?

              I have a lever on the top. I assume is throttle. Some notches on underside of fuel tank that the lever hits that looks to be means to ‘lock’ in a speed. Start midway?

              I have a T type knob that looks to be control for fuel flow into bowl.  How many turns out?

              I think that is all I have for adjustments

              any help would be appreciated

              ML

               

              #260600
              Bob Wight
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                For initial adjustments and starting, try these:

                Screw adjustment with “Lean” marking – close to seat, then open 3/4 turn

                Choke lever on the side – up to choke, down to run

                Lever on the top is the throttle – open about halfway

                T handle knob is main adjustment screw – close to seat, then open 2 full turns

                Bob

                1937 Champion D2C Deluxe Lite Twin
                1954 Johnson CD-11
                1955 Johnson QD-16
                1957 Evinrude Fastwin 18
                1957 Evinrude 3022
                1958 Johnson QD-19
                1958 Johnson FD-12
                1959 Johnson QD-20

                “Every 20 minute job is only a broken bolt away from a 3-day project.”
                "Every time you remove a broken or seized bolt an angel gets his wings."

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                #261018
                ml_mcm
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                  So I get a spark with an in-line spark tester but can’t seem to get one at the plug.

                  I pulled the flywheel and cleaned the points but didn’t help so condenser or coil is the only two things left

                  Anyone with  a weak spark solution?  What are possible replacements for these parts.  Original parts don’t seem to be available

                  #261028
                  Buccaneer
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                    Did you check the coil primary and secondary windings with an ohm meter?
                    In my opinion, it’s always best to replace the condenser.
                    If you need help with the test, let us know.
                    Photos of your magneto may help us.

                    My 1940 Champion S1F magneto information. I’m not sure
                    if your mag has the same components or not.
                    ______________________________

                    Coil Wico X2156 (specs, 1.5 amps)

                    Coil tested at…..Primary .4 K ohm, Secondary 4.60 K ohms

                    X2186 Wico condenser (specs .16 to .20 mfd)
                    Replaced with .20 mfd electronic axial capacitor

                    ______________________________

                    DSCN8533

                    Prepare to be boarded!

                    • This reply was modified 3 years, 7 months ago by Buccaneer.
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                    #261036
                    ml_mcm
                    Participant

                      I’ll get pics and ohm measurements tomorrow.  It has an Eisemann 61E magneto I believe

                      • This reply was modified 3 years, 7 months ago by ml_mcm.
                      #261073
                      ml_mcm
                      Participant

                        I’ll get pics and ohm measurements tomorrow.  It has an Eisemann 61E magneto I believe

                        • This reply was modified 3 years, 7 months ago by ml_mcm.

                        Looks like I have an open secondary on the coil.  Strange since I had something with the tester.  Pic below after I started to disassemble.

                        any suggestions on what I can replace this with?6FD3D801-5395-4248-BE50-86B9FCA492CE

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