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December 16, 2021 at 7:06 pm #251200
Hello,
Just picked up a 1955 Johnson RD-17. Big upgrade from the 52 QD-13 i had on the boat. Couple of questions i have as i start to work on this monster. First removed flywheel to replace coils and points. While rotating the motor with the plugs removed to set me point gap i noticed a small knock sound in the motor. Once I had the flywheel removed i reinstalled the bolt to be able to rotate the crank. close to 180 degrees apart i hear what sounds like a slight knock. Is this normal or something to be concerned about. I had the motor running before i tore into it and it seemed to run a bit rough. The coils wires and points we very old if not the original so I figured this caused the running rough.Also on the throttle linkage there is a arm that goes into the recoil housing can you tell me what this is or does. This is a new to me motor and has a few more moving parts than the old QD did
Thank you for your time i appreciate the help
NickDecember 16, 2021 at 10:48 pm #251222You might want to see if you have slop in the wrist pins, as far as the knock goes.
The other thing you mention, I believe is a “lock out” so you can’t engage the starter rope
if the throttle is too far open, and most likely in gear.Prepare to be boarded!
December 17, 2021 at 10:25 am #251243You might want to see if you have slop in the wrist pins, as far as the knock goes.
The other thing you mention, I believe is a “lock out” so you can’t engage the starter rope
if the throttle is too far open, and most likely in gear.Agreed. Those engines were prone to wear out the wrist pin bearings early. Later, they went to needle bearings in the 30hp, which also gave troubles. After several years, the finally got it right with the big roller bearings used right up through the V-4s
December 18, 2021 at 2:01 pm #251302Does the engine knock when you run it? Generally, you will hear a knock at dead idle, but it will go away when you advance the throttle if slop is an issue. I know you said it runs a little rough, but does it knock? Sometimes powerheads will have a little “clunk” when rotating past TDC to with no plugs installed…You can always use a little wooden dowel to check for wrist pin/rod slop. Simply rotate one piston about half way up its compression stroke, then back the flywheel off slightly. Now, used the dowel to attempt to push the piston back down, you will feel some sliop and hear a clunk if there is wrist pin/rod wear… Repeat this process with the other piston….
I just don’t want you to condemn this engine needlessly….DDecember 19, 2021 at 1:35 pm #251368Fleetwin,
Thank you that is great info. I followed your process last night and it worked well. When i push the piston with the dowel i hear a very slight tick which is probably the slop in the wrist pin. I’m far from and expert but it feels and sounds very slight. When the motor is running i do not hear a knock at all. Will probably tear it down and replace the wrist pins at some point as I am sure they have a bit of wear on them.Next question is the recoil. Replaced the spring and it a tough one to reinstalled and get the eye of the spring on the pin of the recoil pulley. Any tips or trick son this one?
Will replace the impeller and seals also replace oil seal in the lower unit tonight. When I drained the oil it was milky so I assume I am picking up water somewhere. It is a fun motor to work on and is a most compared to the QD I rebuilt.
December 19, 2021 at 9:37 pm #251396OK, so you don’t really feel much slop in the wrist pin/rod. The little tick could just be sideways slop/clearance between the piston and cylinder, which is normal for these engines. You don’t hear any ticking/knocking at idle so I’m thinking you are OK. As for the recoil, yeah that is a tough job without the special tool to rewind and install the spring. Please be very careful, wear safety goggles while attempting to get the pulley pin into the spring eyelet. It’s hard to prescribe a method of doing this, you might have to bend the spring inwards just a bit to help line it up. Please be careful, don’t get hurt…
It’s hard to pinpoint gearcase leakage issues without pressure testing. It’s not too bad if the oil is just milky, provided no raw water drained out of there. Just change the gear lube more frequently. Make sure each drain plug has one, and only one gasket on it, perhaps this is all that is wrong…December 19, 2021 at 11:30 pm #251402see pages on RD starter spring assembly
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