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    james hobson
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      I change plugs from a j6 to aJ8 thinking this would run a little hotter how ever motor would not run just spit sputter then die ;return home put J6 plugs back in an it started up and keep running why would this happen also one other problem when I turn up to full throttle rpms are slow to come up to full rpm would this have something related to timing.

      #244167
      crosbyman
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        assuming sparks are ok……sounds like fuel problem when was the carb serviced last ?

        btw vent open on the tank try with the cap off suggestion… raise the tank above the engine a few minutes… if better probably bad pump…. all this if your engine is modified for pumping

        if not ……make certain the tank is getting pressurized open the cap it should go psssst!

        keep priming the button on the tank to see if engine runs better if yes …. you have a tank pressurizing problem keeping the fuel from being push up to the engine and refilling the carb.

        (recent reported case of pressure loss was the small check valve feeding air pulses to the air nipple)

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        #244168
        fleetwin
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          Well, I don’t think J8 plugs would cause the engine to die on acceleration, perhaps one of those plugs is defective….
          The timing isn’t really adjustable, but certainly check to see that the mag plate is moving freely and opening the carb butterfly properly…
          What kind of boat is this engine on and how is the boat loaded? Too much weight in the stern will cause the engine to struggle trying to plane the boat off. Is this engine new to you? If not, how has this rig performed in the past…Post pictures of the rig, perhaps a video of the engine struggling to get to WOT….

          #244169
          james hobson
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            The motor would not run on a J8 plug but would on a J6 why, when I ran in a barrel of water when I open to full throttle rpm was slow to follow

            #244170
            james hobson
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              Carb was rebuilt, tank is a pressure tank when I pump up button gets hard to push ,release cap lots of air comes out.

              #244181
              crosbyman
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                check carb vent openning …… try removing the filter in the glass bowl ….. float upside down ? …. when did this problem creep up…..? high speed nozzle and side holes cleaned out ?

                crankcase vacum leak ? how is compression ? how’s the electricals (all redone and adjusted) timing ?

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                #244183
                Matthew Pieklik
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                  check the sync of the carb to the mag plate.

                  #244194
                  labrador-guy
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                    I have a couple motors that the mixture controls won’t stay in the correct position. Vibration sometimes make the mixture go lean or rich. Wrong mixture will greatly mess up the performance of your kicker!

                    dale

                    #244199
                    fleetwin
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                      So, you have only run this engine in a barrel/test tank? If that is so, it is near impossible to adjust the needles very well, you may want to try it on a boat to dial it in properly. Is this engine new to you?

                      #244201
                      outbdnut2
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                        Spark plug heat range is not about how hot the motor runs. It is about how hot the tip of the spark plug runs. The correct heat range keeps deposits burned off the firing tip and it’s tapered insulator, without getting hot enough to damage the insulator, or cause pre-ignition, igniting the gas from the hot tip before the spark gets there. If your J6s aren’t fouling, the heat range is not your problem

                        Going one heat range hotter (J6 to J8 like you did) should not make any difference in the way your motor runs, not hot enough to cause pre-ignition; and only after extended periods of high speed running will you be able to see a difference in the color of the deposits on the firing tip insulator. I’m thinking one or both of your J8 plugs are defective. I’ve heard of a lot of Champion plugs lately have been bad right out of the box, new. It has been speculated that the move to a manufacturing facility in Mexico created Quality problems. I’ve had a couple Champion plugs that didn’t perform well too. I have switched to NGK plugs with no problems.

                        It’s interesting that cross reference charts show both J6 and J8 cross to NGK number B6S, although one chart at Spark plug depot, after saying B6S, also suggests in the chart’s next line down NGK (PU) B6Y, for the J8 whatever that (PU) means.

                        If you get into using NGK plugs, as that number (the 6 in B6Y) gets bigger, the plug gets colder – opposite of the way Champion’s numbers work.

                        Now for your initial problem of the motor being slow to increase RPMs when you open the throttle, motors will often bog or lag initially when you open the throttle if the low speed carb mixture adjustment is set too lean. You need a slightly richer mixture there to start acceleration before the high speed jet kicks in. Try moving the low speed mixture adjustment richer 1/4 turn at a time until you can go from idle to fast without any lag, cough , or kill.
                        Dave

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