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    David Bartlett
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      Hey Aidan,

      The early 5.5’s are great fishing motors when run with the right oil mix. Unfortunately people think that they can run them on 50:1 and they grenade.
      You can often find the Johnson “Red Book” on eBay for a good deal.

      David Bartlett
      Pine Tree Boating Club Chapter

      "I don't fully understand everything I know!"

      #300214
      fleetwin
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        OK, it threw a rod…  A few possible reasons for this.  The first reason might be that a light oil mix was used.  These engines are designed to use a 16:1 fuel/oil mix, and it is a must for those plain rod bearings.  Ignore the hype about “today’s oils are better so less is required”.  Go light on the oil mix, and this is what happens.  Another cause for this is a slow silent killer.  The lower crankcase seal is a very complicated assembly that is often ignored/left out/mis assembled allowing water to enter the crankcase slowly wearing the rod bearing.

        In this case, it seems hard to believe that the crankshaft is in good shape, I would reinspect it for sure.  The other issue is hidden damage to the inside of the crankcase.  When parts go flying around inside, usually the crankcase gets cracked/damaged creating an external leak.

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        fleetwin
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          OK, it threw a rod…  A few possible reasons for this.  The first reason might be that a light oil mix was used.  These engines are designed to use a 16:1 fuel/oil mix, and it is a must for those plain rod bearings.  Ignore the hype about “today’s oils are better so less is required”.  Go light on the oil mix, and this is what happens.  Another cause for this is a slow silent killer.  The lower crankcase seal is a very complicated assembly that is often ignored/left out/mis assembled allowing water to enter the crankcase slowly wearing the rod bearing.

          In this case, it seems hard to believe that the crankshaft is in good shape, I would reinspect it for sure.  The other issue is hidden damage to the inside of the crankcase.  When parts go flying around inside, usually the crankcase gets cracked/damaged creating an external leak.

          PS:  The piston should be carefully inspected as well, often damaged/distorted when rod parts go flying around inside as well

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          #300239
          Aidan Smith
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            Fleetwin,

            Yes, the rod grenaded to say the least. The upper piston is surprisingly OK, with no cracks to the internal crankcase after inspection. The crank has a pinhole nick on the very edge of where the rod cap would have hit, but nothing other than that. Did I get lucky? I bought it with a claim of it being “Seized,” and had sat for years. Turns fine now, though.

            "Shells sink, dreams float. Life's good on our boat."
            1921 Elto Light Twin
            1923 Evinrude Model N Sportwin
            1929 Evinrude N1 Folding Sportwin
            1931 OMC Fold-Light
            1956 Johnson JW-12R

            #300240
            Aidan Smith
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              Fleetwin,

              Yes, the rod grenaded to say the least. The upper piston is surprisingly OK, with no cracks to the internal crankcase after inspection. The crank has a pinhole nick on the very edge of where the rod cap would have hit, but nothing other than that. Did I get lucky? I bought it with a claim of it being “Seized,” and had sat for years. Turns fine now, though.

              "Shells sink, dreams float. Life's good on our boat."
              1921 Elto Light Twin
              1923 Evinrude Model N Sportwin
              1929 Evinrude N1 Folding Sportwin
              1931 OMC Fold-Light
              1956 Johnson JW-12R

              #300270
              fleetwin
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                I would say you are very lucky indeed.  I would clean up the crank with some fine crocus cloth and measure the journals before re using.  I would also have a very close look inside the crankcase to be sure nothing is cracked or split.

                Were the lower seal components correctly installed when you pulled the powerhead off?

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                #300276
                Aidan Smith
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                  It’s a relatively low-hour motor, and yes, everything was installed correctly! Cylinder bores still had cross-hatching on them as well

                  "Shells sink, dreams float. Life's good on our boat."
                  1921 Elto Light Twin
                  1923 Evinrude Model N Sportwin
                  1929 Evinrude N1 Folding Sportwin
                  1931 OMC Fold-Light
                  1956 Johnson JW-12R

                  #300277
                  fleetwin
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                    Probably ran light on oil.  How does the other rod/crank journal look?

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                    #300279
                    Aidan Smith
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                      Surprisingly, looks amazing. Clean, no carbon or signs of heat anywhere

                      "Shells sink, dreams float. Life's good on our boat."
                      1921 Elto Light Twin
                      1923 Evinrude Model N Sportwin
                      1929 Evinrude N1 Folding Sportwin
                      1931 OMC Fold-Light
                      1956 Johnson JW-12R

                      #300282
                      fleetwin
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                        Surprisingly, looks amazing. Clean, no carbon or signs of heat anywhere

                        Well, if the engine truly has low hours, I suppose it could have been a manufacturing/assembly error, or perhaps someone revved the crap out of it in neutral

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