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    steveh
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      This is my son’s motor and he is saying he gets an accumulation of black liquid under the hood of his motor. It smells like gas, but he cannot tell where it is coming from. The motor runs and idles fine.

      My guess is a failed exhaust gasket or adapter gasket, but I thought I would ask before ordering parts…

      Thanks,

      Steve.

      #281234
      crosbyman
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        looks like a mix of carbon and fuel   likely exhaust gasket or base gasket

        can you see the leak while operating the engine ??

        try a bit of soapy water spray to see if you see a leak

        btw  try compression test  and report  #s in case the head gasket leaks… a bit

         

         

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        #281242
        steveh
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          Hi Crosbyman…thanks for the reply.

          He notices it after running it awhile on his canoe. Probably should put it in the barrel and use the soapy water…excellent suggestion!

          I am leaning towards the exhaust gasket. Head gasket maybe, but this thing idles down to nothing. I would think we would have issues running it with a head gasket leak. But you are right, compression numbers are easy to get and cant hurt.

          Thanks again!

          Steve.

          #281269
          Tubs
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            Check to see if the screws have come loose on the exhaust cover plate.
            Tubs
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            A "Boathouse Repair" is one thats done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

            #281280
            fleetwin
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              I would agree, this is usually caused by a leaky exhaust cover gasket.  I remember mine as a kid did the same thing.  Perhaps you can just take up on the cover screws which might solve the problem.   The only other thing that spatters oil around is if you have squirted oil into the recoil spring trying to free it up, but I think it is the exhaust cover in this instance.  you can replace that gasket without pulling the powerhead from the lower pan, just takes a little extra time and care to get the block surface cleaned up.  Look carefully at that exhaust cover to make sure the aluminum has not eroded/corroded causing this leakage, although this usually occurs along the water passage, not in the exhaust area.

              I would use a heavy duty sealer, such as permatex/OMC typeM/840 sealer on the gasket,  cover screw threads as well.  Be very careful not to plug up that water passage though.  The most important aspect of doing this job is to “retorque” those screws several times after running to be sure no new leaks develop.   Sure, I realize you can’t actually “torque” most of these little screws, just snug them up with a small 5/16″ box wrench.

              I guess one of the hardest parts of this job is removing that lovely side pull rewind starter without having it explode it pieces.  Carefully/slowly remove that large bolt while holding the starter pieces tightly together.  Once the threads have released from the block, carefully pull the starter assembly out, push the screw back through the rewind exposing the threads on the back side.  Install a suitable nut on the threads and snug it up so the rewind will stay together and just lay it off to the side.  Sometimes an assistant makes the difference here, just be careful and wear eye protection.  Don’t pull that large screw out of the rewind or you will dislodge the washer/spacer behind the shoulder resulting in a jammed rewind when reassembled.

              #281284
              crosbyman
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                fleetwin..

                 

                are there any water passages to block or be concerned about under the  exhaust plate  ?   I know some larger engines have  exhaust cover cooling but  seems theese little 3 hp just get hot .?

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                #281318
                fleetwin
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                  fleetwin..

                   

                  are there any water passages to block or be concerned about under the  exhaust plate  ?   I know some larger engines have  exhaust cover cooling but  seems theese little 3 hp just get hot .?

                  Yes, there is one small water passage closest to the crankshaft, it runs vertically from the bottom of the cover to the top of the cover.   The rest of the exhaust cover is not water cooled, and definitely gets hot…

                  #281337
                  steveh
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                    Thanks guys! I spoke with my son tonight and he said the exhaust plate was loose. He was on the water all day and will tighten things up tonight.

                    But he wanted me to ask one other question: It seems the center bolt holding the recoil assembly repeatedly works itself loose after about 10 pulls. Is there any way to secure it? He has tried locktite, but says there is too much oil for it to grip. Suggestions?

                    Steve.

                    #281341
                    fleetwin
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                      https://www.marineengine.com/parts/johnson-evinrude-parts.php?year=1968&hp=3&model=3806A&manufacturer=Evinrude&section=MAGNETO+GROUP

                      I’m guessing item number 40 is missing, the spacer washer, located in between the large shoulder bolt and the rewind cup.   Sometimes it comes dislodged when the starter is removed, it may still be inside there…

                      #281344
                      crosbyman
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                        Canada Member

                        try  “carb  cleaner”  spray   to  clean  the bolt and threads  by  removing any oily residue then apply  blue lock tite

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