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    Aidan Smith
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      Currently working on a 68′ Evinrude 3HP, with the 90 degree lower.

      I’m having issues keeping the motor running. It will start easy, run well, runs cool, but if I leave the motor and come back later, it will not start. Next day, same thing. Carb has been rebuilt, fresh head gasket, runs properly and cool when it does. New impeller. Any ideas?

      Thanks!

      "Shells sink, dreams float. Life's good on our boat."
      1921 Elto Light Twin
      1923 Evinrude Model N Sportwin
      1929 Evinrude N1 Folding Sportwin
      1931 OMC Fold-Light
      1956 Johnson JW-12R

      #300148
      seakaye12
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        With the gravity feed fuel tank;  do you think the carburetor needle/seat might be seeping ever so slowly that over time it floods the engine?  Does the fuel shut-off valve work 100% ….and are you using it?

        If you think this could be the issue….you could tilt the engine up just a bit…..which would allow the carb to drip out the throat into the silencer as opposed to running inside the engine.  Maybe even remove the silencer so it would be easier to see the dripping…..

        The solution would be to re-visit the functionality of the needle/seat.

        #300149
        Aidan Smith
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          Seakaye,

          This particular motor is the later side-throttle type with the external tank

          "Shells sink, dreams float. Life's good on our boat."
          1921 Elto Light Twin
          1923 Evinrude Model N Sportwin
          1929 Evinrude N1 Folding Sportwin
          1931 OMC Fold-Light
          1956 Johnson JW-12R

          #300172
          outbdnut2
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            When it won’t start, have you checked for spark?   If you have no spark on both cylinders, look at the flywheel key – it could be sheared and the flywheel moving on the crankshaft when you try to start it, and after enough pulls, it works its way around to the correct position to make it run.

            If you have spark, will it fire if you spray some gas/oil mix into the carb throat?  If it fires on that,  you have carb problems.  I worked on a 1970s 4 HP  this summer that wouldn’t start, but would start and run as long as I squirted fuel in.  When I had cleaned the carb, I missed the fact that the bowl vent was clogged.  With the vent clogged,  The bowl would have difficulty getting enough fuel to make the choke pull some for starting.  To spray fuel in, it wworks better if you remove the intake silencer from the carb first.

            If it has spark and won’t fire on fuel spray into the carb, you may have a flooding problem, usually caused by a sticking carb float, or dirt in the float valve that keeps it from closing completely when the carb is full.

            When you changed the head gasket, did you check the head for flatness with a straightedge?   That model is well-known for the head warping.  It could be sealed when warm and running and leaking between the cylinders when it cools off, making for hard starting.  If it’s warped, it can be sanded flat with wet-or-dry sand paper laid on a perfectly flat surface – I use the steel top of an old circular saw table that is flat steel.

            Dave

             

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            #300173
            Tubs
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              Condensers can put out a good spark when a motor is cold, but become weak when they get warm. While they can put out enough spark to keep your motor running, you cant pull the motor over fast enough to get it to restart. Replacing is worth doing even it isn’t your problem.

              A "Boathouse Repair" is one thats done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

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              seakaye12
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                Lots of good suggestions.  I would summarize by saying that your diagnosis should be done the same way any no-start diagnosis is done.  Is it a fuel or spark issue or compression/timing issue?  If a fuel issue….is it because of too little fuel or too much fuel….. etc.

                 

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                #300196
                Aidan Smith
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                  Update,

                  I have successfully gotten the motor running, it had a faulty float needle in the rebuild kit, there were burrs on the end, causing it to restrict fuel flow. Needed a magnifying glass to figure that out. However, it runs extremely hot. New impeller, but still getting too warm. Next step is pulling the powerhead to clean out the water ports.

                  "Shells sink, dreams float. Life's good on our boat."
                  1921 Elto Light Twin
                  1923 Evinrude Model N Sportwin
                  1929 Evinrude N1 Folding Sportwin
                  1931 OMC Fold-Light
                  1956 Johnson JW-12R

                  #300209
                  crosbyman
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                    Canada Member

                    those  little 3hp do run hot  check  lower section for  s series of holes spitting out  warm water

                     

                    they run even hotter is a bucket  due to  water  being  churned into bubbles

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                    #300213
                    outbdnut2
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                      Do you have the water several inches above the cavitation plate when you start it?  If you are only covering the intake, the water pump will not self-prime.

                      Dave

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                      #300238
                      Aidan Smith
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                        I’m in plenty of water, in a 500 gallon test tank

                        "Shells sink, dreams float. Life's good on our boat."
                        1921 Elto Light Twin
                        1923 Evinrude Model N Sportwin
                        1929 Evinrude N1 Folding Sportwin
                        1931 OMC Fold-Light
                        1956 Johnson JW-12R

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