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    MHarrington
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      Hi everyone,

      I get this is a bit new compared to most things talked about in the club that I have seen.  I acquired this motor along with another one and a bunch of parts, got it resembled and put a new power pack on it and starter.  When I put the power pack on it the timing was 180 out somehow, this is causing a terrible sputter(I’ll try to get a video of it but it might take a day to figure that out).  I was trying to verify my theory by using a timing light but the timing light doesn’t work for some reason I have yet to figure out.  Does anyone know what could cause this, all of the electronics coming from under the flywheel where they meet on the terminal block and rectify was also disconnected.  I used my other 35hp that ran fine as a reference and the one that came with this one.  Does anyone know what would cause this or have any ideas?  (the power pack has the correct part number on it)

      #296447
      fleetwin
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        O8K, just typed a response, but won’t repeat my expletives about this website…

        Does the engine actually run, or just backfire when you attempt to start it?  The engine will not run if the timing is off 180 degrees.  So, if the engine runs, and you suspect a timing issue, perhaps you did not torque the flywheel nut properly and the key has sheared knocking the timing way off.

        Hopefully you can post a video which will help give us a better idea of what is going on.

        #296477
        MHarrington
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          Well here’s the thing.  It runs, but I had to switch the plug wires(bottom to top and top to bottom) to get it to run.  I didn’t remove the flywheel, tried but couldn’t(nut is torqued to the force of a million suns).  Only things I did were put a new power pack on it because the others looked questionable, reconnected all the wires coming from the stator plate and stuff(I believe they are correct), put the rectifier on it and did a starter, those are all the electrical things I did(other than remove the wiring harness to hotwire it because I don’t have the receiving end.

           

          https://drive.google.com/file/d/10bC7L8ApjU-m-irNCXha_1LWSL1vkX1a/view?usp=sharing

          video

          does anyone have a picture of where the wires go to the junction box maybe I got the 2 wires for the cylinders in the wrong place now that I am thinking about it.

          #296478
          crosbyman
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            Canada Member

            does this help

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            for the stuck FW nut I find that a 1/4″ impact wrench is helpful.  apply some wd40 to soak the threads .  I have  used  Dupont teflon spray for snowblowers  to work great on stuck nuts.  It is a very thin clear spray and capillary action soaks  in quickly.

            sometimes  when they don’t come out  a quick  torque shot clockwise then reverse will work

             

            Joining AOMCI has priviledges 🙂

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            #296503
            fleetwin
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              OK, the only way the engine would run is if you swapped plug leads.  I watched the video, more on that in a bit.  Swapping powerpacks shouldn’t have affected anything wiring wise, the plugs simply plug in, no individual wires to mess with.  The first thing I would do is look at the diagram that was posted, notice the three wire connected that has the orange coil wires.  Notice that the number one/top coil orange lead should be connected to the orange lead with the blue tracer coming from the powerpack.  If not, perhaps either the powerpack or the coil leads are in the wrong positions on the rubber amphenol connectors.  If that looks OK, then I would look at the four wire connector with the brown leads and the black and white leads.  Make sure all the colors line up in the connectors.

              Yes, changing the powerpack should not have affected any of this.  Did you use a new powerpack, or used one?  If it was used, perhaps someone had messed with the wiring. Or, perhaps someone had messed with the wiring on your original powerpack.  Compare the three pin plugs on both powerpacks to see if the wires are in the same positions.

              Finally, the video shows that the engine is spitting lean causing that miss.  The first place to start with with basic syncronization.  The carb throttle must be completely closed at dead idle speed, and must begin to open at just the right time.  There is also that economizer linkage on the side of the engine that might be misadjusted, holding the throttle plan open…  Or perhaps the carburetor linkage is damaged holding the throttle plate open.   This is where to begin, check your initial low speed needle setting as well.

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              #296512
              MHarrington
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                I switched to 2 orange wire around last night thinking that someone messed with though possibly (this motor was a basket case) haven’t tested it yet.  I bought a new power pack and all other wires should match, 1 on the yellow wires I believe the yellow with white/gray stripes is faded on 1 but I pulled back the cover and its in the correct spot.  I haven’t quite figured out the whole throttle thing yet, I have it adjusted correctly (believe at least)  because when I give it some throttle it pretty much clears up but still stutters a little.

                #296528
                fleetwin
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                  US Member

                  OK, so you swapped the coil wires in the amphenol rubber connector.   Good job getting those out of there without the special tools!  Be very careful with those connectors, do not put grease or lubricant inside in an effort to make it easier to to assemble.  Use rubbing alcohol as the lubricant, it will evaporate.

                  You may just have to richen up the idle mixture to get it to run OK at lower speeds.

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                  #296541
                  MHarrington
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                    I may have to mess with the synchronization some because the previous owner gave me a new old stock carb that I put on, its not stuttering as bad now that I have richened it some.  Any base settings for the synchronization I should try?  Its getting throttle a little to late I believe that why I say that.

                    #296550
                    fleetwin
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                      I may have to mess with the synchronization some because the previous owner gave me a new old stock carb that I put on, its not stuttering as bad now that I have richened it some.  Any base settings for the synchronization I should try?  Its getting throttle a little to late I believe that why I say that.

                      Yes, there are some basic syncronization things to check, a little tough to describe with words but will try

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