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December 20, 2023 at 6:46 pm #283370
Have not tried to run this motor yet, this is not a troubleshooting question. Just checking if my parts are viable.
TD20 – Pulled the mag plate to rebuild it. Coils read 3.41k and 3.36k on the secondary’s. Primaries are good to go. I’m thinking I’m at the lower limit for these readings? I think I remember that they need to read 3k – 8k? Does the low reading affect performance?
Also – condensers are .199 and .198. Supposed to be .22, correct? I’m guessing that I’m in the ballpark with these?
Thanks!
John Gragg
RIverside, CAJust starting in the hobby, please be patient.
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57 Johnson RDE-19December 20, 2023 at 7:00 pm #283371Good to go
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December 20, 2023 at 9:20 pm #283374values are fine but…. even if the capacitance reads ok on a low voltage capacitance meter they may fail under load. just something to keep in mind.
a dead short capacitor is a dead capacitor
a full open capacitor is a dead capacitor
a good uf capacitor value is a ” maybe good” capacitor 🙂
the only good test is with a high voltage test apparatus commercial or home built
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December 20, 2023 at 10:09 pm #283375values are fine but…. even if the capacitance reads ok on a low voltage capacitance meter they may fail under load. just something to keep in mind.
a dead short capacitor is a dead capacitor
a full open capacitor is a dead capacitor
a good uf capacitor value is a ” maybe good” capacitor 🙂
the only good test is with a high voltage test apparatus commercial or home built
Thank you. Question, you sent me this person’s information a few months ago. I sent him an email letting him know I was interested in building a tester but never heard back. Is he still around and active?
John Gragg
RIverside, CAJust starting in the hobby, please be patient.
48 Sea King 5hp GG9014A. Sold
49 Sea King 5hp GG9014A
48 Johnson TD20. Sold
49 Johnson TD20. Sold
54 Johnson QD15. Sold
55 Johnson CD12. Sold
57 Johnson RJE-19M
57 Johnson RDE-19December 21, 2023 at 6:31 am #283376I use an old Graham Lee tester but have noticed this little tester on EBay.The electronics experts here can tell us of it will do the job.
December 21, 2023 at 7:46 am #283378check your PM …..in the mean time here is a basic design which should be much better than just a basic 30$capacitance meter
I have not built this one but it should be ok. About as basic as you can get
The circuit will generate probably 150 volts of DC from household current . Dangerous voltages/currents are limited with 2 x 560 k resistors. The diode will rectify and alllow houselod on AC peaks (approx 150v) to reach your capacitor under test .
the parts can be simply be installed in a small aluminum box for mounting the bulb and probes . use a 3 wire cord to ground the box.
Mr Mohat’s test box #1 basically works the same way except he used 2 diode to create a voltage doubler to reach about 300v
voltage doubler designs are everywhere on the Net if you want to go 300 volts
when connecting a outboard capacitor to it and if leakage turns on the neon bulb … it is bad ! ” simple test !
as always proceed with caution if not confident with such voltages … !!! other wise get your brother in law to build it 🙂
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December 21, 2023 at 8:28 am #283380interesting.. thanks for heads up on this one.
I looked it up works with 9v olt battery and hopefully 9 volts is boosted way up there to test the capacitors .
no AC cord ” power” to deal with .. nice and compact
probably a must have for testing outboard capacitors. not expensive to ! nice design
CLT Model 3G Capacitor Leakage Tester Guitar Amp repair Fender Marshall Vox + | eBay
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December 21, 2023 at 8:54 am #283381interesting.. thanks for heads up on this one.
I looked it up works with 9v olt battery and hopefully 9 volts is boosted way up there to test the capacitors .
no AC cord ” power” to deal with .. nice and compact
probably a must have for testing outboard capacitors. not expensive to ! nice design
CLT Model 3G Capacitor Leakage Tester Guitar Amp repair Fender Marshall Vox + | eBay
I asked the seller if it would work on the capacitors we commonly use and he just got back to me.He said it would on any under .33uf and capacitor needs to have one “end “ disconnected and be discharged just like you’d assume.Seems like a good deal for those without a Merc o tronic,Stevens etc.
December 21, 2023 at 9:04 am #283382I wrote to him also
I am waiting for reply on test voltages on the probes which is critical to detect leakage but based on EBAY comments looks good 🙂
to bad he won’t ship canada…that box is cheaper thant all the parts I purchased to build MR.Mohat’s test box although I am very satisfied with it .
this little test box should be a must have in the tool box along with box wrenches plyers etc…
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December 21, 2023 at 9:40 am #283383check your PM …..in the mean time here is a basic design which should be much better than just a basic 30$capacitance meter
I have not built this one but it should be ok. About as basic as you can get
The circuit will generate probably 150 volts of DC from household current . Dangerous voltages/currents are limited with 2 x 560 k resistors. The diode will rectify and alllow houselod on AC peaks (approx 150v) to reach your capacitor under test .
the parts can be simply be installed in a small aluminum box for mounting the bulb and probes . use a 3 wire cord to ground the box.
Mr Mohat’s test box #1 basically works the same way except he used 2 diode to create a voltage doubler to reach about 300v
voltage doubler designs are everywhere on the Net if you want to go 300 volts
when connecting a outboard capacitor to it and if leakage turns on the neon bulb … it is bad ! ” simple test !
as always proceed with caution if not confident with such voltages … !!! other wise get your brother in law to build it 🙂
Any reason this unit couldn’t be built using a “non conductive” box
instead of aluminum? Thanks.Prepare to be boarded!
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