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    I recently acquired a 56 Evinrude 30 hp manual start from the estate of a mechanic that pasted away. He restored vintage outboards for a living and the farthest he got with this one was running it in his tank. It runs good at full throttle anything below that the engine runs rough. The carburetor was looked at by another mechanic and seems fine. The high low mix is adjusted the best it can. Does the timing change at different RPM’s? I noticed a part that has a hose going into it from the engine and a wire going up to the ignition.  The only thing needed to complete the restoration is the emblems on the hood, if someone can steer me in the right direction I’d appreciate it. Thanks

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    David Bartlett
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      Gordon,

      Welcome. The thing with the hose and wire that you mention is a switch to cut the ignition if the engine starts to run away in neutral, yo prevent the engine from grenading.

      If it won’t run well at low speed and the carb is clean and adjusted properly, and the ignition is in good shape, it could be that the compression is low. Proper ignition timing of the points opening 180 degrees apart is critical for a good idle, so do what you can to eliminate variables.

       

      David Bartlett
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      #301253
      Don
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        Well, it could be most anything.  Could be something as simple as improper carb/ignition sycronization.  Some of these engines had the “economizer linkage” (not sure if this one has it though).  If that feature is misadjusted, the carb might open way too early causing it to run lean.  Just because the carb “looked clean” doesn’t mean it is working properly.

        The engine may be losing spark on one cylinder, or have erratic ignition at lower RPMs as well.  That feature you mention with the hose is the ignition system vacuum switch that prevents the engine RPM from running away when you cut the throttle back quickly.  This could be malfunctioning causing the engine to lose spark on one cylinder when the throttle is cut back.

        The biggest thing here is to determine whether the ignition or fuel system is causing a problem.  Any way you can post a video of the engine misbehaving?  I realize it won’t post hear because the file is too large, but maybe you can post it on youtube.  You can even send it to me through email if you like.

        Finally, I realize the past owner had rejuvinated this engine, but it is possible that is has poor compression, or perhaps water leaking into one/both cylinders.  It only takes a few minutes to check compression and doesn’t cost anything to check.

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        labrador-guy
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          Gordon to answer one of your questions yes the timing changes as the throttle is advanced.  If it were mine I would look for a plug wire pinched or grounding someplace when the throttle is at idle.  Causing spark to short out on one cylinder.

          dale

          #301258
          Bob Wight
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            To echo what fleetwin noted, your motor is equipped with the “fuel economizer linkage” and you might check this linkage for proper adjustment.   I’ve attached a picture from my 1956 Johnson 30hp which should be identical on your Evinrude.

            To adjust the linkage with the engine off, shift the motor to forward gear and advance the throttle to fast (wide open) throttle.    Referring to my picture, with the throttle wide open the armature bracket should be touching up against the crankcase stop.   At that point, the link rod collar should be snug up against the pivot pin on the throttle link arm.  If not, loosen the rod collar screw and adjust it so it is up against the pivot pin with the armature bracket still snug against the crankcase stop.

            As David, fleetwin and Dale also noted, there could be other issues causing your running issues.   Check compression and check for proper carb adjustment, good hot ignition spark and possible ignition grounds.   We are here to help.

            Bob

            1937 Champion D2C Deluxe Lite Twin
            1954 Johnson CD-11
            1955 Johnson QD-16
            1957 Evinrude Fastwin 18
            1957 Evinrude 3022
            1958 Johnson QD-19
            1958 Johnson FD-12
            1959 Johnson QD-20

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            #301309
            JACQUES
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              Has explained all the basics need to be  looked into  compression  , electricals/timing  and fuel flows.

              to properly service your oldy once you have  determined compression is ok ( Post your #s) you should get this book on service the cousins ( johnson) . it may not be 100% matchedto your Evinrude but close enough to explain what you need to look into and service.

              https://watercraftmanuals.com/outboard/johnson/johnson-302231.htm

              400 + pages of  knowledge on oldys for $20 is the cheapest   service book you can download !!

              have  you at least pulled the FW to  inspect ignition coils which in those years always ended up cracked.   flexing ignition wires can break , condensers go bad ,  sometimes points may need just a touch up see video on timing     but everything needs to be looked into   .

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga1Cjymj6ms&feature=youtu.be

              the carb  side channel feeding the top idle cct must be 100% clean .…it has a VERY narrow passage to te top carb portion!

              check a few of these things and report back if you don’t have a happy ending 🙂

               

               

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              JACQUES
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                see pic  of low speed   fuel path and drip chamber  fed by that narrow  fuel  channel up the side ls  channel

                 

                see fuel saver info if applicable… to your Evinrude cousin… it is the type of info available all across that 400+ page book coveing carbs ignition, gc etc.. etc…

                keep in mind fuel flow is critical  anything  affecting the operation of tank pressure system  and fuel flow ( via filter)  may only show up at lower rpms.  see manual

                 

                BTW    tank runs with fumes inhaled  doesn’t always help…

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