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    crosbyman
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      no need to replace  flapper valve  before… doing  the hose   soapy  air leak tests  from nipple to tank      easy stuff first  !

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      #275346
      crosbyman
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        I have always run my  50’s  +    oldies with      1L tcw3  /  25L fuel mix   no issues

         

        60’s  +  oldies  50/1                  .5L  tcw3    /  25L fuel

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        #275370
        JohnRude
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          No bubbles. No apparent leaks on that gas tank. Pulled out a 1955 7.5 Evinrude (the one with the oil slinger problem last year). Test tanked it up, plugged in that fuel tank (sitting on the floor). She/He started third pull and after the warm up the motor idled so slow it was like one revolution at a time. Ran for fifteen minutes. No problem. So it’s not the tank.

          I’ll pull the reed plate. I have a spare set of valves. Hopefully, I can save the gaskets which are not cheap. May as well lift the motor and fix the leaky shift handle. Which means replacing the exhaust gasket. Does it ever end? (Not until it starts!!)

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          #275371
          billw
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            Like Frank said, it is common to see some water leaking from the shift handle shaft area. It might only be a bad O-ring but it’s also possible that when you take it apart, the exhaust housing where the shaft lives, is worn out and oversize. If it were me, I would let sleeping dogs lie, on that one.

            As for fuel mix, if there was EVER an engine model just dying to throw a connecting rod through the crank case, it’s a fifties 7.5 OMC product. Ask me how I know this. I would strongly, VERY strongly, advise AGAINST a 25:1 ratio on that engine. Use 16:1, like it was designed to use. Spend an extra nickle and save an entire engine.

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            #275373
            fleetwin
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              Getting involved here late, so don’t want to “muck up” the process asking questions that have already been asked/answered.  Sounds like you have ruled out the tank by trying two different tanks, both of which operate fine on a different engine, correct?

              You are probably getting ready to pull the intake manifold to check those black rubber pressure check valves.  I would check the pressure nipple/hose/connector first/again though before going into the intake manifold.  Oftentimes, those pressure nipples got “soldered closes” when converted to single line/fuel pump systems.  Make sure the rubber hose isn’t damaged/plugged, the same goes for the air outlet prong on the engine’s fuel/air connector.

              Like Bill says, the intake manifold isn’t a big deal on these engines, try removing the outer cover only, there is no sealer used on the gaskets, the rubber pressure valves are clearly visible once the outer cover is removed.

              Again, like Bill says, not uncommon for the water to leak out around the shift handle.  The shift handle bushing is small and subject to wear creating an easy exit for exhaust/water.  I wouldn’t worry about it until the next time the powerhead is pulled.  You mentioned the engine would not shift into gear, did you check the shear pin?

              #275491
              JohnRude
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                Thanks for the suggestions. For added measure, I’ll make sure the connection holes from/to the tank are clean. I already replace fuel line and air line hose.

                Correct about the shear pin. It was missing entirely. I didn’t check the lower unit at all except to change the oil before working on the top end. The old oil was dark and stormy but I’ve seen worse.

                I’m starting a new thread about another mysterious problem.

                #275552
                fleetwin
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                  Thanks for the suggestions. For added measure, I’ll make sure the connection holes from/to the tank are clean. I already replace fuel line and air line hose.

                  Correct about the shear pin. It was missing entirely. I didn’t check the lower unit at all except to change the oil before working on the top end. The old oil was dark and stormy but I’ve seen worse.

                  I’m starting a new thread about another mysterious problem.

                  Just to be clear, this engine needs to be mixed at 16:1, regardless of the oil used.  True, oils have improved over the years, but not all that much.  This engine uses “plain bearings” on the large rod/crank ends and requires plenty of lubrication, or the crankcase will ventilate as pieces of the rod blow through it.  When in proper tune, these engines barely smoke at all, even at 16:1.  I realize that even some of the OMC literature states these plain bearing engines can be mixed at 24:1, ignore that.

                  #275562
                  jeff-register
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                    If the sintered metal filter is dirty & not available I used air conditioning coil cleaner on my Mercury filter. Pour a shot glass full & soak overnight & if it is real dirty repeat. It will not hurt the filter as it’s made for aluminum coils cleaner. Comes in a quart size at A.C. supply houses. Many thought it wouldn’t work until I sent them some. Mercury filters are in the tank so been in there from new I’d guess & very plugged & dirty.

                    #275563
                    crosbyman
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                      you can  also remove the sinterd filter and  just add an external one in line with the fuel supply to the carb.  I have seen them with drilled across to allow fuel to pass

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                      #275569
                      billw
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                        you can  also remove the sinterd filter and  just add an external one in line with the fuel supply to the carb.  I have seen them with drilled across to allow fuel to pass

                        I have seen that, too….drilling holes in the old filter. I never understood that. If you were going to use an external filter, why wouldn’t you just take the whole OEM filter out??? I suppose leaving it in does preserve the bail, for the next guy to make it right again….

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