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August 7, 2016 at 1:42 am #4934
I inspected the water pump before test firing. Virtually new impeller. Fired on the 2nd pull. No water discharge. Ran a wire up the pee hole. Got a bit of water but not a strong stream. Pulled the t stat cover,bone dry. Since this new to me salt water motor has over heated,seeing the flaked paint and a new water pump,I’m thinking it may have impeller pieces jammed in the cooling jacket. Pulled the lower unit,put in a deep bucket and turned the driveshaft in nuetral with a drill at about 800 RPM. Got water shooting out the top of the pump about 3/4"
Ran water into the t stat recess in the block. Water exited the pee hose elbow fine. No water exiting the water tube.
Ran water up the water tube. Just leaked back down the makeshift hose connection,no water came out the pee hole or t stat recess.This leads me to think the obstruction is in the water tube. I did try running a thin wire up the water tube the distance from bottom to power head. Seemed clear.
Maybe the upper water tube oring is plugged/collapsed?
Short of pulling the powerhead ,anybody had good results using compressed air to clear any obstructions. I’m thinking spray some pb blaster up the water tube with the motor on its side to lube any depris. Then shoot compressed air into the t stat recess and plug the pee hole, and hope too blast out any debris. Kinda a reverse flush . Couldn’t hurt to try..right?"Some people want to know how a watch works, others just want to know what time it is"
Robbie RobertsonAugust 7, 2016 at 1:46 am #41688You can try, but I would never feel comfortable running it knowing it has overheated without doing all I could to be sure I had it clean inside. Salt crud and impeller pieces can hang up most anywhere.
August 7, 2016 at 2:26 am #41690Show it some love…by the time one farts around with maybees…pull the powerhead, gaskets, seals and maybe rings. It won’t take long to work over and one will be sure if its condition.
August 7, 2016 at 2:33 am #41691The upper water tube grommets are probably melted and collapsed. You will have to pull the powerhead for this. The good thing about this is that you have an easy time of replacing all the fuel lines and doing the carburetor if you want to while the powerhead is on the bench. Grease the shift linkage and clean out the 27 years of crud. Fairly easy job and almost all of these little engines need this. Almost every single engine I purchase for re-sale has this issue. I do it as standard practice now.
It is a very easy job if the engine is a freshwater engine. Six powerhead screws, three pan mounts, shift linkage, fuel lines, kill switch wires, choke knob, and remove the starter. Have a 3/8-16 nut handy to thread onto the starter bolt to keep the assembly together.This engine had zero sign of an overheat. They mushroom out at the base and close up almost completely at the other end.
You will need two grommets and a powerhead base gasket.
August 7, 2016 at 4:27 am #41698When I did mine I flared the end if a new piece of copper. I turned the clamp tool over and tapped the flaired end flat against the clamp tool. This will keep any rubber from extruding over the hole. I used a short section of 3/8 fuel hose as a grommet. Had to grind the outside to fit. Pressed the tube/grommet into the exhaust tube. The hose was just a bit longer so the clamping force will compress the hose into the housing. The flaired end is against the gasket. If making own tube don’t forget the cooling hole in the water tube if not using the wet leg.
August 7, 2016 at 4:31 am #41699August 7, 2016 at 4:44 pm #41719I will be pulling the powerhead. I didn’t realize how severe the deterioration gets on the grommets .Thanks for the advise.
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Robbie RobertsonAugust 8, 2016 at 12:25 am #41733Yeah, those grommets are a design flaw that haunt most all these engines used in salt water, except for the early models!
I wish I knew why the engineers chose to design these things so the top 1/8" or so of the grommet is unsupported by the water tube….Perhaps they were trying to ensure the copper water tube did not touch the aluminum engine block reducing the possibility of dis similar metal corrosion….
The design has improved a bit over the years, but I still end up cutting about an 1/8" off the top of the grommet to reduce the possibility of having the grommets crush over.
Again, your engine has two water tube grommets…August 8, 2016 at 10:27 pm #41784This grommet 330426 is now $10.99 it was $4.79 two years ago.
August 9, 2016 at 4:21 am #41823quote RMHXRuss:This grommet 330426 is now $10.99 it was $4.79 two years ago.BRP has been raising prices quite a bit. Unfortunatly, I didn’t have this motor 2 years ago . I saw that price when I looked at what parts I would be needing.
OMC’s design flaw,BRP must figure every surviving 9.9 and 15 will need one or two sooner or later,like a cold beer at a baseball game. The good old Captive Audience.
On a brighter note,all my fasteners for this salt water job came off with out breaking, now all is left is to gently remove that block . I’m looking at all options and methods. Thanks for your input."Some people want to know how a watch works, others just want to know what time it is"
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