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November 6, 2021 at 6:14 am #249220
Attached is a photo of the lower crank bearing. I looks like the bearing is wiped through. Does that mean that this crankcase is unusable? Is there ay repair possible? I noticed that this motor is very hard to start. Could that be because of crankcase pressure leaking past this bearing? Thank you.
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November 6, 2021 at 7:19 am #249222Hm-m-m-m–. I can’t decide if “wiped through” is a good description or not. Could it be some other material transferred to the bearing? Those motors had problems with water ingestion through the seal directly below the bearing. I suspect that might be the problem here (??). I’d probably clean it up and check the clearances, and if acceptable, use it. However, how about the steel roller bearings? Any water damage to them, such as rust or pitting?
November 6, 2021 at 10:13 am #249223Frank, Thank you for your reply. The steel bearing looked ok. I put the lower end back together and have had problems starting the motor. But that could be for lots of other reasons. The scratches in the bearing seemed to be through the bearing material but that would mean that the bearing material is very thin…
November 6, 2021 at 10:35 am #249224I know what you are thinking—thin, as in the plated bearings found in some connecting rods. But I would have a hard time believing it is that thin in this case. I doubt this is causing your hard starting problem. Those motors would start and run right up to self-destruction when the seal failed and gulped water, without the owner even realizing anything was wrong. Looks like you got a good one, so far.
November 6, 2021 at 11:13 am #249225Thank you.
November 6, 2021 at 7:56 pm #249252Like Frank says, that really doesn’t look that bad. Remember, these are not race engines, and will tolerate imperfections and still run just fine. Is it perfect, no, but it will probably work fine. Clean up the lower crank journal and check it with a micrometer. Was the lower seal in good condition when you removed it? Check the upper bearing also, water in this area is pumped back up to the upper bearing, so those tend to get rusted.
November 8, 2021 at 6:12 pm #249369Fleetwin,
The lower seal was intact when I replaced it. There was a small amount of rust on the crankshaft lower seal area. The upper bearing showed no rust. I replaced the upper crank seal and the bearing o-ring.
Thank you.November 9, 2021 at 5:35 am #249398If it’s still apart, measure the upper bearing surface on the crankshaft with calipers or a micrometer, just to be sure. I just had a ’55 15 that had zero rust in that area but the journal was .002″ worn and the bearing it rode in was worse. There was so much slop in the upper bearing that it was throwing the points out of whack and the engine wouldn’t run right, because of that. I’m ashamed to say that I put mine all together, thinking the bearing was fine, just because there was none of the usual rust. After figuring out the problem the hard way, I had to take it all apart, again. Yours is probably fine; but I am just trying to save you that potential grief.
Long live American manufacturing!
November 9, 2021 at 12:39 pm #249415Thanks BillW but I put mine back together too. I am working on another one and I will do that check.
November 9, 2021 at 2:50 pm #249420Fleetwin,
The lower seal was intact when I replaced it. There was a small amount of rust on the crankshaft lower seal area. The upper bearing showed no rust. I replaced the upper crank seal and the bearing o-ring.
Thank you.Be careful, many of the powerheads of that era did not use an oring on the upper bearing, adding one will mess up the recirc system. You mentioned there was some rust on the bottom of the crank, was it rusty where the lower seal rides? Did this powerhead look like it had been apart before?
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