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    Dan McKean
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      I have a 1956/57/58 (not sure which year exactly) Johnson 35 hp with a model number of 35531. It was built in Canada.

      I just recently downloaded the Johnson “Red Book” and saw the chart for the 1958 Johnson 35 horse power with the following model #s: RD-19C, RDE-19C and RDS-20

      Were there different model #s depending on which country the motor was built in?

      The other issue I have is that this same motor is likely a mix of different parts. So the exterior plate states as above – Model # 35531 but on the interior part of the motor, the circular silver coin shaped plate shows a big M (from my research, it doesn’t appear to stand for Mercury) and the model number is 0385564.

      any thoughts on identifying the year and make of the engine?

      • This topic was modified 4 years, 3 months ago by Dan McKean. Reason: adding photos
      #247673
      Dan McKean
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        Below is the photo of the engine silver disc

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        • This reply was modified 4 years, 3 months ago by Dan McKean.
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        outboardnut
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          #247678
          frankr
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            I have a 1956/57/58 (not sure which year exactly) Johnson 35 hp with a model number of 35531. It was built in Canada.

            I just recently downloaded the Johnson “Red Book” and saw the chart for the 1958 Johnson 35 horse power with the following model #s: RD-19C, RDE-19C and RDS-20

            Were there different model #s depending on which country the motor was built in?

            The other issue I have is that this same motor is likely a mix of different parts. So the exterior plate states as above – Model # 35531 but on the interior part of the motor, the circular silver coin shaped plate shows a big M (from my research, it doesn’t appear to stand for Mercury) and the model number is 0385564.

            any thoughts on identifying the year and make of the engine?

            • This topic was modified 4 years, 3 months ago by Dan McKean. Reason: adding photos

            The squared M is OMC’s trademark. 385564 is the serial number. Probably a Canadian motor. Yes, Canadian and USA motors have different serial numbers.

            35531 is an Evinrude 1962 40hp.

            RD-19C is a rope start motor 1958
            RDE-19C is an electric start motor 1958
            RDS-20 is a 1958 Johnson Super Sea Horse (Super Quiet) 35hp

            • This reply was modified 4 years, 3 months ago by frankr.
            #247686
            Dan McKean
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              Thank you very much! This was very helpful to confirm that the engine is definitely different from the body of the motor.

              #247687
              Dan McKean
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                Thank you this is very helpful and confirms that the engine is different from the body of the motor. It looks like I have a 40hp engine in a 35 hp body. My guess is that the lower unit is probably different too.

                Oh well, it runs really really well!

                Thank you again!

                #247735
                need2fish
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                  I’ve had a few motors built in Peterborough — there have been slight differences — decals, for example.

                  Perhaps you do have a motor that was born with a powerhead mated to an odd-ball body.

                  frankr – were there Gale builds going on in Peterborough as late as ’62 ?

                  #247737
                  Dan McKean
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                    Thank you! Yeah the casing model # is completely different than the engine model #

                    #247741
                    frankr
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                      I’ve had a few motors built in Peterborough — there have been slight differences — decals, for example.

                      Perhaps you do have a motor that was born with a powerhead mated to an odd-ball body.

                      frankr – were there Gale builds going on in Peterborough as late as ’62 ?

                      1963 supposedly was the last year for Gale production, both US and Canada. However there were some strange happenings showing up even after that, which I can’t explain. Model numbers that don’t exist, for instance. Perhaps they had to make a few more motors to fill Ward’s purchase orders? Just conjecture on my part.

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