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February 22, 2017 at 2:50 am #6394
New member here. Could someone explain the significant differences between the early Johnson 4 hp alternate firing motors such as the A 50, 65 and 70? Is there consensus on whether these are reasonably dependable? Also, does anyone have a source for parts such as the spark plug cover? Thanks for your help!
February 22, 2017 at 1:24 pm #53419They were very smooth runners. In good condition, they are as dependable as any other motor. They have the advantage of no water pump, thus no impeller to wear out. The pressure suction cooling system was well proven by the time 1930 rolled around. Have never owned an A65, but have owned both A50’s and A70’s. There might have been some slight differences in things like exhaust cut-outs, carbs, and so forth, but I don’t immediately recall anything that was a HUGE difference.
One thing I have found with these is that the internal crankshaft bearing gets worn, and when that happens, they are very hard to start & run. Also, if compression is at all below 60 PSI you need to re-ring it to bring it back up above that level. Below 60 PSI they will start out of water, but not in it.
Hope this helps.
best,
PM T2He's livin' in his own private Idaho..... I hope to go out quietly in my sleep, like my grand-dad did..... and not screaming, like the passengers in his car...
March 8, 2017 at 2:00 am #54010Bought an A-70. Is the best way to clean the old grease out of the lower unit to remove the gear case head and start sloshing solvent in there?
March 8, 2017 at 3:51 pm #54023There is no spark plug cover on A-50. I think it came on later model like A-70 or A-75.
March 9, 2017 at 1:38 am #54031PM T2’a comments were the best to be considered. Early (A/K50’s) only had the center of the crankcase bored as a center maing bearing and it was aluminum. Any wobble of the crank would wear the center quickly. Later on they went to a bronze insert which did well. I had a K that someone had made a bronze insert for and had "pinned" it in place with 1/4 20 brass machine screws from the outside. It wasn’t pretty and it took a lot of work,—but it worked!
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