Frozen 1954 Evinrude Super Fastwin 15

[2dogsnight]

Hello,

Really like older Evinrude motors, and just found one for sale for little $$. Owner advertised it as a complete motor but froze-up.
What would be members advise in this case? I do have some experience working with motors – recently was working on Atomic 4 1956….its ready to go back to the boat as of today.

thank you
Wojo

[fleetwin]

How much is little $$? Might be worth the gamble for a few bucks. Might just be stuck from sitting, or maybe the gearcase is rusted/jammed causing the engine not to turn.
Worst case scenario is that the engine was submerged, never serviced, and is now totally rusted and beyond economic repair. Is it in nice cosmetic condition? Parts are not too tough to find for these engines.
Before buying, see if the owner will let you mess with the engine a bit. Pull the lower gearcase lube screw (not the phillips head screw! This holds the shift linkage in place), see if either gear lube, water, or perhaps nothing is present inside the gearcase. The gearcase is probably not the problem if gearlube is present when the lower drain screw is removed.
Pull the spark plugs and try to peek inside the cylinders with a light? Are the plugs all rusted, can you see any rust inside the cylinders? Try rocking the flywheel back and forth slightly by hand. Will the flywheel move at all, even the slightest little clunk indicates that the crank/rods are probably free, the pistons are probably slightly rusted to the walls.
How does the engine look with the cover removed? Is the cylinder head badly discolored? If so, the engine was probably badly overheated. I suppose some fool might have run the engine with no oil/not enough oil mixed with the fuel causing the pistons to seize to the walls, but I am "guessing" the engine is just stuck from sitting.
So, might be worth the gamble of a few bucks after this closer inspection. These are great running engines, and many of the parts are still available.

[1946zephyr]

Fleetwin is right on track. Great advice. I usually look at "parting out prices" when I find a motor that I know nothing about. Try not to spend more than 50 bucks on anything that you can’t see run. If it looks really good, cosmetically, 100 dollars tops.

I just recently picked up a 1956 Johnson 10 hp and I paid quite a bit less than I could part it out for. It was stuck when I paid for it, but quickly freed it up, after I got it home. I was lucky Now I have to see if it runs. 🙂

[chris-p]

Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don’t! If its near free, go for it. Ill buy them stuck all the time. IF I can free them up, great, if they are totally beyond repair, not a total loss as I always need parts anyways.

But, for someone that just wants 1 motor to get running, might not be the best option really. Those motors are NOT high ticket items. You could likely get a nice, unstuck example from a local member for 100 bucks or so. I would wait for that.

Just my 2 cents.

[2dogsnight]

thank you for great information’s everybody!
The asking price is $75 OBO Looks good – will need paint to make it look great.
Wanted to post a picture, but can’t figure out how…every forum have different way of doing it.
Few weeks ago there was one for sale in my area ( Lakebay WA) for $150- not frozen, just sitting in the garage for 15 years. I was deciding on it too long – was gone in a few days. It was a long shaft, as is the frozen one……and long shaft is what I want.
I would love to get a running one but restored one goes for over $1000- and that’s little steep at the moment.
I will chew on this for a week and will let you know how it goes

thank you again

Wojo

[chris-p]

Offer 50 bucks you cannot go wrong. Even if beyond repair.

If they need full powerhead rebuilds, that adds up quick. You will have more into it than its worth. I do it all the time, so Im a hypocrite, but something to note.

Post a wanted ad here in the classifieds before you buy, and see what comes up. Im too far away, but I would sell a motor like that with all new mechanicals in my area for around 300 range. That is not full blown cosmetic restoration as well, but all new mechanicals.

You should be able to buy a motor like that for about 100 bucks, not stuck, but needing mechanicals. That is what I would search for. All said and done though, you are up over 150 to 200 in parts you will need to invest after you buy coils, condensors, plugs, points, plug wire, carb kit, impeller, gearcase re seal kit, gear oil, possible head gasket, seals, etc etc etc…

[2dogsnight]

Thank you Chris!
I am thinking of building a plywood motorboat Merry Maid – 1950’s design. They were running a Mercury Super Ten on it. Recommended power is 10 to 16HP They were getting 20 mph with that setup. So Evinrude 15-18 hp will be fine for that boat. I would prefer long shaft as with a short shaft is just more chances to swamp the boat.
Thank you for your suggestions – I would love to buy a motor mechanically sound for $300 🙂

[chris-p]

Im sure a member local to you can help out. Post your general area/state, and see what PMs you get, or post an ad.

[2dogsnight]

just posted an ad in Classified…..thank you !
I live in Lakebay….near Tacoma WA
Looking for Evinrude Fastwin 15-18 HP long shaft, from 1954 to 1958
or Johnson 7.5 HP long shaft, 1950’s

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