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    brad-ernst
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      I have 1950 p50 Johnson that the phenolic rotary valve gear went bad on I now have a replacement steal gear but don’t know how to set it. Can anyone please help me. On the gear there is a j stamped but is hard to tell if it is on the tooth on the valley.

      Sincerely Brad Ernst

      #23058
      brad-ernst
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        It’s a 1930 not a 1950 sorry
        Brad Ernst

        #23086
        Tom
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          This should get you pretty close: Remove one spark plug. With some measuring device, set the motor past top dead center, with the pistons about 5/8" down from TDC. If you don’t have a tool for this, use a stick marked for TDC and 5/8" past that. Loosen the rotary valve until you can turn the gear, and remove the little plug in the top of the valve. Turn the valve until you can see the "J" in the plug hole. (This is a lot easier with the carb removed, so you can hold it in place while you re-install it on the motor.) Install the valve without moving the crank, with the "J" showing in the plug hole. Button everything else back up.

          You may want to experiment one or two gear teeth in either direction, once you get the motor running. IIRC, advancing the valve will make it easier to start, retarding it will give you more top end, as long as the motor isn’t loaded up. The 5/8" value is for the S-45 and V-45, and I think the P series motors are different, but changing one tooth in either direction will probably make up the difference in measurement, and shouldn’t make a huge difference in performance. I hope someone will chime in with the exact measurement for the P-series rotary valve.

          Videos, man, we want videos…

          Good luck.

          Tom

          #23142
          brad-ernst
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            I put the valve back on and I am getting it to start and run for a second or two then it stalls possible carburetor float issues. But also wondering about what the fuel mixture should be. Over the years I have been told a lot of different things like 24:1, 40:1 plus some strait 30 weight motor oil with it. Recently I saw another post on another model, I don/t remember what one that said 8:1. Any suggestions. and could that be why it doesn’t stay running do to loss of a seal on the rotary valve with not enough oil.
            Brad Ernst

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