I Was Enabled or Bamboozled…

[wbeaton]

quote PM T2:

if one Chief is good – two must be better??

PM T2

TWINS, Basil! Every young mans dream.

Keep posting photos of Chiefs and Speedsters, please. I will file them away for reference to help with the restorations.

Wayne
Upper Canada Chapter

uccaomci.com

[PM T2]

quote bkrsdoz:

T2,
Yes, the sheave plate say’s 82B and serial # 11998.
When I first found this one, I had posted a photo saying it might be a late ’28, because it has the ’29 exhaust, and matching lower.
You had informed me that Lockwood had offered a kit to upgrade the 82B series to the later underwater exhaust, and that this one must have been converted.
That sounded logical to me.
This particular motor was found in a collapsed out building on the “Pratt” ( of “Pratt & Whitney” aircraft engines fame) summer estate in NH.
Are there any other serial numbers stamped on the block to further ID this motor model?
It appears all original and unmolested to me, and turns smooth.
Thanks,
Bob

Bob, you’re right that the model number indicates a 1928 motor. I should know this, but I can’t say for sure whether the serial number will appear anywhere else on the powerhead of the Chief. The only ones I know for sure that had serial numbers on the crankcase were the 92BR Racing Chief and the model 163 electric-start Chief made in 1930.

Your motor could be the complete reversal of what I first suggested. I guess in retrospect I should have asked you to post pictures of it on Ask-A-member (I don’t access Dockside or any other members only sections). Sometimes occurrences like this one show that It’s too hazardous to go strictly by serial number.

You may well have a post-1928 Chief that had the earlier rope sheave stuck onto it. You could, of course, also have a 1928 Chief that has been upgraded from stem to stern. I say that because not only does it have the Silent Chief exhaust and lower unit, but the tiller handle and carb-intake manifold assembly is circa 1929, and the fuel sight glass feature was issued in 1930 as far as I’ve been able to ascertain. The ’28 handle is a twist-throttle, not lever actuated like the 29’s and 30’s are. Carb is completely different as well.

Sometimes answers only generate more questions……

Best, PM T2

He's livin' in his own private Idaho..... I hope to go out quietly in my sleep, like my grand-dad did..... and not screaming, like the passengers in his car...

[chris-p]

I love the look of the black exhaust tube.

[PM T2]

Chris that particular Chief was the first one I ever owned, and I got it from one of the nicest gentlemen that the AOMCI ever had for a member; Dr. James L. Smith, from Toronto Ontario. He sold it to me in the fall of 1997. Said he’d owned it for almost 30 years but had never run it. I’ve run it several times, but not since 2003. Unfortunately I did not have it running at any shows where he was present. Would have liked him to see her getting put through her paces. Black T-pipe obviously not the original colour scheme, but yeah I kinda though it looked cool, and I have plenty of other Chiefs that are stock bare aluminum, so I felt I could take some poetic license with this one.

Best,
PM T2

He's livin' in his own private Idaho..... I hope to go out quietly in my sleep, like my grand-dad did..... and not screaming, like the passengers in his car...

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