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    Michael Anfossi
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      Hello,
      Looking to find out the thread size for the flywheel nut as well as the 3 screws that hold the rope sheave, thanks

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      Tom
      #246912
      Buccaneer
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        Guessing the nut is a 7/16″ x 20 tpi, and the three machine screws
        the oddball 12-24 or 14-24, which are a little hard to find.
        Do some searches on site for those oddball thread sizes to see
        which one for sure. Guessing you already tried 1/4″ x 20?

        Prepare to be boarded!

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        #246916
        need2fish
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          I’ve had good luck finding oddball thread sizes at Fastenal…unfortunately I haven’t seen screws with the convex head and slotted, i.e. they come flathead and Philips.

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          Tubs
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            A "Boathouse Repair" is one that done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

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            #246932
            Buccaneer
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              I don’t believe I’ve come across a 12-30 thread yet, but hope I don’t have
              to find a replacement bolt if I do!

              Prepare to be boarded!

              #246933
              Michael Anfossi
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                Buccaneer,
                Thanks for the replies, but I am pretty sure they were not 7/16-20 or 12-24 as these are “standard” thread sizes. 12-30 might be correct but for some reason 12-28 rings a bell for the rope sheave.
                Think the flywheel nut is finer than 20, but nit positive as my old eyes are struggling to see.

                #246934
                stanley
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                  Rope plate screws are 10-30.I bought a die and made mine out of brass then nickle plated them.I don’t remember exact crank thread size,but it is generic

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                  #246960
                  joecb
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                    Stanley is correct #10 – 30 tpi. AT first I questioned this, thinking perhaps the slightly more common #12 – 28, but no! I checked my A-25, sure enough #10 – 30.
                    I have posted this in the past, but its worth repeating in the interest of not messing-up a nice motor. Back in the day when the American National Screw Standard was commonly in use there were screw sizes from # 2 to #30. Some of these remain in common usage today, like #6, 8 , 10. Others like #3,7, 9, 14 are now obsolete. As for thread pitch, most of the old number sized had three “standard” pitches associated with a given size. For example the #10 (0.189″) came in 24, 30 and 32 TPI. The #12 (0.216″) which we encounter on our old motors came in 20 and 24TPI. Number 14 (0.242″)- 18-20 and 24TPI. Number 16 (0.268″) – 16, 18, 20 TPI. Where one can get into trouble when encountering these old screws is not only the unusual pitch… like forcing a common hardware #10- 32 into that #10 – 30 hole. Likewise the size, note how dangerously close the old #14 and #16 sizes are to the common 1/4′ (0.250) screws, Want trouble? try a common 1/4 – 20 into a #14 – 20 hole in your prize outboard. When in doubt, the micrometer and thread pitch cage are your friends.

                    Joe B

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                    Tubs
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                      Joe – What would this be?
                      Tubs

                      A "Boathouse Repair" is one that done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

                      #246979
                      PM T2
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                        Tubs;

                        Its 1/4-20 NC but 0.010″ oversize. Probably a # 14 screw like Joe says. Whatever it is, I recently finished making a set of these bolts for an early Johnson, they hold the cylinders onto the crankcase housing. I didn’t use a die for the threads, I just cut them in the lathe.

                        Hope it helps.

                        Best,
                        PM T2

                        He's livin' in his own private Idaho..... I hope to go out quietly in my sleep, like my grand-dad did..... and not screaming, like the passengers in his car...

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