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May 16, 2023 at 1:18 am #276250
Don,
What is different on crankcase drains from older to newer models?
Jeff
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May 16, 2023 at 2:43 am #276251Good point Jeff, you’ve got me thinking!
What I failed to mention is that I converted this motor to a single fuel line, see the images below. The air supply to the fuel tank was blocked with JB weld, and it from what I can tell it is not leaking any fuel. Just to make sure I will connect a hose, stick the other end in a bottle and run the engine for a while to make sure it is not leaking at that spot. If it is fuel should be visible in the bottle.May 16, 2023 at 6:20 am #276255Happy to confirm it’s dry. It’s also air tight, no bubbles are coming from the hose with the other end submerged.
May 16, 2023 at 6:37 am #276256Just tightened all hose clamps to be sure. One seemed a bit loose. It was on the pressure side of the pump, so that could have been a factor. Any spilled unburnt fuel now can only be coming from the crank case.
May 16, 2023 at 7:59 am #276257you can always modify the crankcase purge to dump crankcase juices in a bottle … instead of down the exhaust housing the recovered fuel-oil can be put back in the fuel tank at the end of the day and it will help the fish. 🙂
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May 16, 2023 at 9:05 am #276259you can always modify the crankcase purge to dump crankcase juices in a bottle … instead of down the exhaust housing the recovered fuel-oil can be put back in the fuel tank at the end of the day and it will help the fish. 🙂
Would that be done by simply unblocking the old air supply line again and connect a hose? If so that would be tempting.
May 16, 2023 at 9:16 am #276260General rule of thumb (not carved into stone) is an outboard will consume the most fuel (1) pushing the boat off plane above trolling speed, (2) pushing the boat to plane, and (3) full throttle. Trolling JUST off idle and planing at around 3/4 throttle are usually the most efficient.
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May 16, 2023 at 9:20 am #276261the crankcase drain channels diverts crankcase juice to the purge valve and out the back end… not certain using the air nipple would do it properly since it sits above the purge valve. The resulting loss of pressure normally built up in a two line tank would also reduce crankcase pressure possibly affecting engine performance …which is why we plug it in the first place .
I tried finding a utube on it and did a search here to no avail. May have been an OUTBOARDER article some time ago ?? can’t recall. it basically involved blocking the purge drain and adapting a cover/nipple on the purge then sending juices back to a bottle.. juices build up at lower speed … at high rpms the fuel oil mix does not accumulate so much being pushed into the cylinders.
up to you… depending on how bad things are… did you try adjusting the carb . both cylinders working properly all at speeds ???
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May 16, 2023 at 9:50 am #276265General rule of thumb (not carved into stone) is an outboard will consume the most fuel (1) pushing the boat off plane above trolling speed, (2) pushing the boat to plane, and (3) full throttle. Trolling JUST off idle and planing at around 3/4 throttle are usually the most efficient.
That’s what I thought, which why I was surprised about the gallon/hour rate when trolling. I was expected roughly half of that, which would mean the other half is wasted by bleeding the crank case? Seems rather excessive to me.
May 16, 2023 at 9:54 am #276266the crankcase drain channels diverts crankcase juice to the purge valve and out the back end… not certain using the air nipple would do it properly since it sits above the purge valve. The resulting loss of pressure normally built up in a two line tank would also reduce crankcase pressure possibly affecting engine performance …which is why we plug it in the first place .
I tried finding a utube on it and did a search here to no avail. May have been an OUTBOARDER article some time ago ?? can’t recall. it basically involved blocking the purge drain and adapting a cover/nipple on the purge then sending juices back to a bottle.. juices build up at lower speed … at high rpms the fuel oil mix does not accumulate so much being pushed into the cylinders.
up to you… depending on how bad things are… did you try adjusting the carb . both cylinders working properly all at speeds ???
Yes, both cylinders working properly and the engine runs smooth. Both sparks plugs have the same color.
I’ll have another go this weekend and see if adjusting the carburetor helps. -
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