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    Charles Byron
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      I just ordered and got new rings for a MK25 I am working on.

      I’ve set the gap on car engine rings before so I know how to do it. But on car engines the rings have square ends.

      On these Mercury rings the ends are not square. My question is are they pre gapped. They are standard size rings for a MK25 and genuine Mercury rings part number  39-20058.

      The Mercury service manual doesn’t mention anything about ring gap.

      Does anyone know? I’d like to know…Charlie

       

       

       

      #256644
      Tubs
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        The end gap needs to be checked and the
        notch would need to be filed accordingly
        if necessary. .
        Tubs

        A "Boathouse Repair" is one thats done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

        #256645
        labrador-guy
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          Charles a general rule of thumb is .004 for every inch of bore, so 3inch bore about 10 to 12 thou.  The biggest thing to watch is they need some end gap.   Mercury rings that I have bought were about 2 thou and that is asking for trouble.  I clamp a point file in the vice and squeeze the ends of the rings on the file.  It doesn’t take long to open them up some.   Elmer K did not want the back yard mechanic to have important information about his motors.  Hope this helps

          dale

          #256648
          Pondrocket
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            Lifetime Member

            Charlie,

            we 1st need numbers on current condition of bores per factory spec then we can advise from there..

             

             

            Travis
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            #256660
            Charles Byron
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              I just checked the bores. I don’t have a dial bore gage so I had to use a snap gage and a mike. I got 2.439 pretty much everywhere I checked. Now my technique probably isn’t 100 percent accurate but I think it’s close enough for a home workshop. Once I hone them maybe 1 or 2 thousandths more. I’m guessing that’s OK. The Mercury service manual says the bore is 2 and 7 sixteenths. I believe that works out to be 2.435 so I think I’m in the ballpark. And I guess 10 thousandths gap is what I need…Charlie

               

              #256667
              Tubs
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                Most of these old motors that people kept around haven’t
                seen anywhere near enough use to need rebuilding and
                honing the cylinder to replace rings it doesn’t need in the
                first place is more likely to result in a loss of compression
                rather than an increase.
                I don’t mean to beat you up but if you don’t have
                any ware or taper in the cylinder there wasn’t anything
                that needed fixing. Honing the cylinder out .002 will
                increase the potential movement of the piston by
                .004 side to side, front to back. Then there is trying
                to get the new rings to seat as well as the ones that
                were taken out.
                I would suggest knocking the glaze off with some 400
                sand paper, gap the rings and put it back together.

                Tubs

                A "Boathouse Repair" is one thats done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

                #256669
                Pondrocket
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                  Lifetime Member

                  Charles,

                  you’re on your way finish cylinder hone for standard bore is 2.441  as Tubs stated you want to deglaze only use a ball hone say 240 grit then clean bores correct oil and good to go

                   

                  Travis
                  AOMCI VP Communications
                  AOMCI Webmaster
                  webmaster@aomci.org

                  #256690
                  Charles Byron
                  Participant

                    A little background and the reason I’m doing this. The powerhead in this case is from A MK25E that obviously was overheated, burnt paint on the outside and damaged pistons and broken rings on the inside. But I have quite a few parts that I picked up at meets and other places. So I have a good cylinder block and 2 good pistons from different motors. So I’m putting together a motor with parts from a few different motors. And the need for new rings.

                    Thanks for the help. Now I know what I need to know…Charlie

                    #256707
                    Tubs
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                      My apologizes. The situation you have described
                      justifies your effort and some expense. Finding used
                      cylinders in that good condition doesn’t happen often.
                      Expect to have a strong runner when its done.
                      Tubs

                      A "Boathouse Repair" is one thats done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

                      #256749
                      AOMCI Webmaster
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                        Charles,

                        Hopefully crank checks out per spec … Also if you have genuine Merc rings and your bores are correct rings are already gapped.

                        Travis
                        VP Communications AOMCI
                        webmaster@aomci.org

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