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  • #5801
    Buccaneer
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      Is this RBM crate original?
      http://www.ebay.com/itm/401234890523?ul_noapp=true

      I see no holes where a lid might have been attached.
      Also, what’s up with that divider in the crate?
      Were the RBM shipped in pieces?

      Maybe John Wellington of Maine will chime in 🙂


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      #48263
      PM T2
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        Crate is almost certainly original. The wood dividing wall on the interior, probably not so much.

        I have an earlier Evinrude crate with the stenciling on both sides, I believe that it is intended for shipping the 1910-1912 motors, as the illustrated motor on the crate is sans skeg. I can tell you that it is not possible to fit my skegless motor in that crate without taking the foot off first.

        Not uncommon for the crate to show up minus the cover. Lack of easily visible nail holes doesn’t mean they aren’t there. I’ve not seen any evidence that Evinrude box lids were hinged like I’ve seen on other motor manufacturers wood boxes (Caille, for instance). I’m surprised ANY of them would have hinges to be truthful, it would have been extra expense to provide them.

        Hope this helps. FWIW I don’t think it’s ‘worth" the starting bid of $300 US, but that’s just me, and I’m sitting here fat dumb & happy with an Evinrude rowboat motor crate already in hand, so might be some bias involved.

        Best,
        PM T2

        He's livin' in his own private Idaho..... I hope to go out quietly in my sleep, like my grand-dad did..... and not screaming, like the passengers in his car...

        #48272
        Buccaneer
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          PM T2, thanks for the reply. I wasn’t planning on bidding,
          but rather curious about that interesting outboard history!

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          #48280
          1946zephyr
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            Nice original. However, I have better uses for $350 😀 😀

            #48283
            joecb
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              US MEMBER PAY BY CHECK

              Hi ya’ Buccaneer, I see from the e-bay posting that you or at least the crate reside in Oakland Maine the residence of the original recipient of the motor. For the sake of historical continuity, have you attempted to track down Mr. John T. Wellington? or decedents? … never know he or the family may have a barn full of old RBM’S

              Joe B

              #48290
              Buccaneer
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                US Member

                Not my crate at auction, and I’m no where near Maine,
                but I did look briefly at the 1920 and 1930 Federal
                censuses, but did not find a John "T" Wellington,
                but found some John Wellingtons.
                Perhaps I’ll research the dealer that sold the outboard next!

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                #48291
                Buccaneer
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                  US Member

                  Found Mr. Moreton in the 1930 census, in MA
                  and occupation is "proprietor" in the Marine
                  Engine Industry.
                  Perhaps one of his grandsons will chime in
                  on how the RBM sales are going 🙂
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                  Walter H Moreton
                  in the 1930 United States Federal Census
                  Name: Walter H Moreton
                  Birth Year: abt 1885
                  Gender: Male
                  Race: White
                  Birthplace: Michigan
                  Marital Status: Married
                  Relation to Head of House: Head
                  Home in 1930: Quincy, Norfolk, Massachusetts
                  Street address: Moreland Road
                  Ward of City: 1
                  House Number in Cities or Towns: 3
                  Dwelling Number: 458
                  Family Number: 605
                  Home Owned or Rented: Owned
                  Home Value: 15, 000
                  Radio Set: Yes
                  Lives on Farm: No
                  Age at First Marriage: 33
                  Attended School: No
                  Able to Read and Write: Yes
                  Father’s Birthplace: Michigan
                  Mother’s Birthplace: Ohio
                  Able to Speak English: Yes
                  Occupation: Proprietor
                  Industry: Marine Engine
                  Class of Worker: Employer
                  Employment: Yes
                  Household Members:
                  Name Age
                  Walter H Moreton 45
                  Elizabeth M Moreton 37
                  Elizabeth P Moreton 5
                  Walter M Moreton 12

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                  #48449
                  wbeaton
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                    Canada Member

                    Interesting detective work. Where do you find US census information? I would love to learn more about the first owner and seller of my 1925 A-25. The original crate that came with my A-25 is a pretty rough, but it was the main selling feature when I bought it. I think the RBM crate would be worth $350 if the crate was complete. I’d still be tempted to place a bid if I had a 1917 Evinrude.

                    Wayne
                    Upper Canada Chapter

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                    #48452
                    PM T2
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                      I dunno – 350 US equates to 465 Cdn today….. just sayin’, hehehe

                      Best,
                      PM T2

                      He's livin' in his own private Idaho..... I hope to go out quietly in my sleep, like my grand-dad did..... and not screaming, like the passengers in his car...

                      #48454
                      wbeaton
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                        quote PM T2:

                        I dunno – 350 US equates to 465 Cdn today….. just sayin’, hehehe

                        Best,
                        PM T2

                        That’s a good point. My thoughts haven’t caught up with the exchange rate, yet.

                        Wayne
                        Upper Canada Chapter

                        uccaomci.com

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