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Monte NZ.
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February 29, 2016 at 3:18 am #3735
Hello everyone
Is it possible to replace the wiring from the coil on the above motor of mine? ……..I don’t dare try opening the coil casing until I have your thoughts.
The wiring on my rudder twin is cracked and perished right up to the coil and the spark plug leads are worn and cracked also.
The motor ran well when I ran it many years ago, but if possible I would like to replace it, mainly as it looks lousy and I hope to have it
ready for the vintage outboard display at the Auckland Boat Show in May.Thanks again in advance.
MonteNZ
February 29, 2016 at 12:43 pm #32670Anonymous
Monte, yes it is possible. The caps are removable, sometimes they have small pins around the edge to keep them attached to the end of the coil tube. What you have to do next is dig through the tar or pitch that the coil casing is filled with and find your terminals for the high tension leads, and solder new spark plug leads onto them. The pitch is not to be trifled with, I believe the ingredients make it a carcinogen, so you want to avoid heating it and inhaling any smoke or fumes that may be given off.
One trick I’ve learned from somebody who works on these coils often – leaving the coil submerged in a container of gasoline for a number of days will soften/dissolve the pitch to the point that everything will slide out of the coil casing. The benefit of this is that the coils and wiring will be completely free of the tar substance, making everything easier to work on. Obviously, the downside is this isn’t a practice for chain smokers to get involved in, and the gasoline can’t be used for anything after it gets the coils out, so it needs to be disposed off safely.
Other options – working under a heat lamp to soften the pitch…. some say boiling water will do the trick and is safer than other methods….. you’ll have to decide for yourself which way is best, quickest, and safest.
Whichever way you use to remove the pitch, when you attach your new spark plug leads, consider installing strain reliefs… simple as twisting a metal wire tightly around the spark plug lead insulation that is inside the coil casing so that the lead can’t accidentally be pulled out through the hole in the cap…
Hope this helps.
Best,
T2February 29, 2016 at 4:12 pm #32675A "Boathouse Repair" is one thats done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.
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February 29, 2016 at 4:56 pm #32676Anonymous
"Double Thumbs Up" for Tub’s post
Best,
T2February 29, 2016 at 8:36 pm #32686So ruff estimate on how long is long enough to boil the coil?
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classicomctools@gmail.comFebruary 29, 2016 at 10:23 pm #32692Anonymous
quote Richard A. White:So ruff estimate on how long is long enough to boil the coil?until you can stick a fork into the side of the case and pull it out without any tar sticking to it……
March 1, 2016 at 12:15 am #32695Thanks T2, Tubs and Richard for your suggestions.
Tubs, you mentioned using a zephyr coil. How would you set that up, being a magneto coil and not a battery ignition one, like the Atwater Kent coil.?
Would anyone be able to put up a photo of a zephyr coil, as I picked up some coils years ago from the local Evinrude agent, when they were having a clean out of old parts. Unfortunately there were no part numbers on them and they just might be zephyr coils.
Thanks again in advance.
Cheers
MonteNZMarch 1, 2016 at 12:50 pm #32725I baked the coils in the house’s oven, set it on a low temp and waited. I had a sacrificial pan to catch the droppings. Once soft, I pushed the coil out. You do need to be careful doing that as you can push the primary winding out from the secondary. If that happens, stop and push it back in before the tar cools and it will be fine.
My thoughts: Yes, new coils are available, That is the easy way out. But suppose they weren’t?
What I’m suggesting is for all of us to persue knowledge through experimenting. We constantly hear complaints that "there are no more mechanics, only parts changers". So what would you do if there were no replacement coils available? I was in that situation with a Bosch mag on my big Caille. That led me to experiment and discover I could install an S/V-45 coil and resurect a good running engine.
The good part about this discussion is there is a backup to experimenting and that is to replace. Try the experiment first and see how you do.
George
March 1, 2016 at 3:20 pm #32729A "Boathouse Repair" is one thats done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.
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March 1, 2016 at 7:09 pm #32737Anonymous
Tubs, when you get rid of the goop that was in the coil tube, what do you use to re-fill it?
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