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    NeptuneMadness
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      Hey friends, I have a 1966 6HP Evinrude. I had to completely rebuild it last year, and I replaced the pistons with the next size up. My motor runs very lean. the needle is turned nearly all the way in. The carb has been cleaned. I never had the lean issue before. Im wondering if putting bigger pistons in might have changed my oil/fuel mixture?

      I’ve heard running lean can ruin an engine, and I just got her rebuilt and runs GREAT! the running lean has me a bit concerned. Thank you

      #265530
      sutterhome
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        What do your sparks plugs look like after running for a while.

         

        #265531
        NeptuneMadness
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          Pretty clean. Not oily. Im wondering if I need to add a small dash extra of Oil to the mixture. the Mix is 50:1 maybe add just a little more

          #265533
          frankr
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            ???? Not understanding the question.  How have you established it is running lean?  At idle or at full throttle?  If at idle (sneezing), simply give the needle a tweak toward rich.  If at wide open throttle, that is controlled by the fixed jet in the bottom of the carb bowl.  That must be absolutely, positively clean, without any trace of dirt, gum, varnish or whatever.  But don’t go reaming or drilling it out.  Oversize is just as bad as undersize/dirty.

             

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            #265534
            Mumbles
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              If it’s idling lean, turn the mixture screw out a bit (CCW) to richen it. This low speed needle should be set slightly rich from smooth idle anyway to help prevent stumbling when opening the throttle.  As mentioned, the high speed mixture is nonadjustable on this motor and is controlled by a fixed orifice jet in the carb bowl.

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              #265554
              billw
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                Maybe the first thing that needs to be said is that turning the adjustment all the way IN, LEANS it. Turning it OUT, richens it. Maybe some of your other engines (like Neptunes?) had carbs that worked opposite of this one? Some do. I agree that the question needs more clarification. When, and with what symptoms, does it run lean, to your knowledge? While you chew on those thoughts for awhile, another couple of thoughts comes to mind: As Fleetwin established awhile back, 6 hp OMCs have been built with at least three different high speed jet orifice sizes, for reasons unknown to us mere mortals. You haven’t mixed and matched carburetors along the way, have you? Also, how is the throttle pick-up adjustment set? The throttle plate shaft ITSELF, should just begin to move as the cam follower lines up with the mark on the cam on the mag plate. Sometimes there is considerable slack in the mechanism that needs to be taken into consideration.

                Long live American manufacturing!

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                #265555
                crosbyman
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                  and if it works don’t  go looking for a fix,

                  Joining AOMCI has priviledges 🙂

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                  #265562
                  Tubs
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                    You say at the end of your post that it runs “GREAT!”.
                    If your only issue is “the needle is turned nearly all the
                    way in” what is “nearly”? 1/4 turn out? 3/4 of a turn out?
                    You say “The carb has been cleaned”? Just sprayed down
                    with some cleaner and wiped off or disassembled, soaked
                    in an ultrasonic tank or in carb cleaner and a rebuilt kit
                    installed? Cleaning and rebuilding of a dirty carburetor
                    will often require a change it the mixture screw setting.
                    Tubs
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                    A "Boathouse Repair" is one that done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

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                    #265580
                    NeptuneMadness
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                      Let me add more context.. Maybe better understanding whats happening. The carb has been completely cleaned, the motor runs great, but I have the needle turned in “Lean” almost all the way, for any speed, maybe backed out just a hair at higher speeds. I’m afraid I am running it to lean and might damage something. I have to go with oversized pistons, and I am wondering if I should start by just adding a little more oil to the mixture, not stay with the 50:1 and go from there. Hope this clarifies a little.

                       

                      Thanks!!

                      #265581
                      frankr
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                        So you are worried about the physical position of the needle, not the actual rich/leaness of the result?  Word from here is don’t worry about it.  As long as it is responding to adjustment, it should be fine.  Wit motor warmed up and running at slow idle, turn the knob toward lean till it falters or sneezes (or quits), then back towards rich till it regains smooth running.  Further turning toward rich should make it run rough.  Proper setting is somewhere between sneezing and rich roughness.  Feel free to tweak it a hair till you are satisfied.  Then leave it alone.

                        BTW, the slow speed needle is just that–for slow speed.   The fixed-jet orifice plug in the bottom is what controls the mixture at higher speeds.

                        Most will agree that a tad more oil for break-in of new pistons & rings is OK.  Don’t go crazy with it though.  24:1 MAX.

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