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    olcah
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      The steering friction screw on my 1956 Evinrude 15 HP is stuck.  I used an impact driver and as the photo shows damaged the screw slot .   I expect the screw head to break off  if  I continue.  Then I will have to drill the screw out.

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      Just wondering what the drill may hit internally.  Does anyone have experience with this?  Any other suggestions?

      Thank you.

      #274985
      crosbyman
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        use  a proper flat blade to fit the slot

        try  to heat  up  the bolt head  only  and  then spray a release agent on the threads (wd40 etc…)                  try a few  a few times  let it soak

        try to  screw  in the  thing before screwing  it out

         

        patience brings joy…..

         

         

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        #274986
        joecb
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          Let time be your helper on this.  Suggest applying some heat ( propane torch) to the aluminum boss that the screw goes into… just warm, not enough to burn the paint. Appy penetration oil ( I don’t think much of WD40 as a penetrant) , then light hammer, tap – tap on the head of the screw. Then go have beer. Come back a few hours later and repeat, and repeat … maybe until you run out of beer. Can you grab the head with vice grips? maybe a long nose pair?

          Joe B

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          #274990
          outboardnut
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            will not harm paint
            https://www.amazon.com/CRC-Freeze-Off-Super-Penetrant/dp/B000TFTH00?th=1

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            #274991
            frankr
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              The screw goes through the casting, bangs up against a brass plate #69, which squeezes a rubber spacer #68 against the liner #67.  The liner is slitted which allows it to squeeze down on the pivot shaft to increase the friction.

              You didn’t say, is the steering too tight or too loose?  If too tight, backing off on the screw probably won’t help because the problem likely is corrosion.  The cure for that is take it apart and dig the corrosion out.  A common problem here in the land of salt and sea.  Done lots of them.

               

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              #274994
              Bob Wight
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                Joe B has it right – this one is a case for patience.   I have had a couple of these friction adjustment screws stuck and finally got them loose with multiple applications of heat and penetrating oil.   As outboardnut suggested, I have used CRC freeze-off on other stuck fasteners – in that case, I would apply heat to the boss the screw goes into then immediately apply the Freeze-off to the screw.

                Best to see if you can get hold of the screw with some vise-grips and get it out rather than trying to drill it out.  In the event you have to drill it out, the enclosed pic shows what’s inside the steering tube behind the screw – a metal plate and a rubber spacer sheet and a shaft liner piece (hope the pictures comes through).

                Bob

                1937 Champion D2C Deluxe Lite Twin
                1954 Johnson CD-11
                1955 Johnson QD-16
                1957 Evinrude Fastwin 18
                1958 Johnson QD-19
                1958 Johnson FD-12
                1959 Johnson QD-20

                “Every 20 minute job is only a broken bolt away from a 3-day project.”
                "Every time you remove a broken or seized bolt an angel gets his wings."

                #274996
                olcah
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                  Frank,

                  The steering is a little tight.  I could probably use it as is but looser would be easier on the cable steering.  Good to know that if I have to drill the brass and rubber can be replaced if I mess up.

                  Thank you.

                  #274998
                  Bob Wight
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                    Frank beat me to it!

                    Bob

                    1937 Champion D2C Deluxe Lite Twin
                    1954 Johnson CD-11
                    1955 Johnson QD-16
                    1957 Evinrude Fastwin 18
                    1958 Johnson QD-19
                    1958 Johnson FD-12
                    1959 Johnson QD-20

                    “Every 20 minute job is only a broken bolt away from a 3-day project.”
                    "Every time you remove a broken or seized bolt an angel gets his wings."

                    #275004
                    olcah
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                      Bob,

                      Thank you for the photos.

                      #275006
                      joecb
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                        As bobw indicates, one needs to consider the relative thermal expansion rates of the two dissimilar materials here. Aluminum expands about twice as much as steel at the same temperature. Heating the aluminum and cooling the steel screw will maximize any potential gap between the two pieces allowing for the possible entry of a penetrant.

                        Note the words “potential”  and “possible” …. a bit of old fashioned luck may come into play as well

                        Joe b

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