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  • #301017
    Buccaneer
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      Have my voltmeter hooked up directly to one set of points on this battery
      ignition Evinrude. It’s running just under 10 volts, which still seems high,
      as I’m now using a 3 ohm resistor before the ignition coil.
      Not sure what to believe.

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      https://youtu.be/9MtCafA_OKs

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      #301027
      crosbyman
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        I am no expert on your engine type but… JMHO…..if you measure voltage on or across point that open an close the voltage will be at max value  during the open air gap of the point because by ohms law….. the highest voltage appears at the highest resistance point (air gap)  of measurement in a series circuit.

        your  meter is  only showing you a value  made up of PEAKS ( when the gap opens)  and  something (when the gap closes)

        analog or digital meters are to slow to react (damper)  to these fast fluctuations and the only way to “see” what you have is with  an oscilloscope..

        https://youtu.be/-arFz0cI5jQ

         

        if you feel adventurous Amazon has lots of  inexpensive scopes  below 75$

         

         

         

         

         

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        #301029
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          Interesting Crosbyman, but I think in my case, that scope would be a little
          bit of an overkill.

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          #301031
          crosbyman
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            agree the one in the utube is to much $$$$$    but a small inexpensive single trace scope  is all you need for OB work . up to you.

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            #301039
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              Regards to “overkill”, I’m not referring to the price, but
              rather that it would seem like using a $1000 gold plated
              toilet seat, when the Ohm’s Law should tell me what
              size resistor I need.
              I just don’t think I have quite the right information in
              my calculations perhaps?

              With the current volts to the points with the engine running,
              V=IxR

              I have, between the ignition resistor and primary coil resistance (3 + 1.3)
              around 4.3 ohms, and if the voltage to the points is running just under 10 volts,
              that calculates to an amperage of 2.3 amps current.

              2.3 amps x 4.3 ohms = 9.89 volts, about what I currently have at the points.

              When I tried using the 2 ohm ignition resistor, and having a total resistance of
              3.3 ohms, the current must have ran at a higher amperage. During that test,
              I checked voltage at the coil “Bat” connection, and was running 11 volts,
              but in testing at that location, it’s not taking into account the resistance
              of the primary coil……. hence, my two test weren’t “apples to apples”.

              Then there’s the question, do I calculate the primary resistance of both
              coils in the coil tube for my equations, or just the one? I only did
              the one.

              With all my calculations, I’m stumped why, when using a 3 ohm ignition
              resistor, I’m still getting almost 10 volts to the points!

               

               

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              #301050
              Gary Haight
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                Do you know if there is an IDEAL voltage to the coils? I know the ballast resistors in the Chryslers was used because of the oil filled metal can coils that would get hot.  Is it possible that the ballast resistor is there to just regulate the voltage to the coils because of the voltage fluctuation with the generator voltage? I don’t know and I am just questioning what the voltage should be.

                #301051
                Buccaneer
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                  From what I know, points ignition systems with 12 volt systems,
                  had a ballast resistor, or other type, usually around 1.7 ohms,
                  depending on the type of coil used. This was to lower the voltage,
                  and hence the current going through the points so they didn’t
                  burn up.
                  The generator will change the equation somewhat I presume,
                  when it’s putting out 13.5 volts, etc.,
                  I read somewhere that nine volts to the points would be okay,
                  but I’m currently at 10 volts.

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