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October 20, 2017 at 1:05 am #8499
I decided I might try to make a new hub out of aluminum
to replace the "two time" cracked bronze hub that
was in the gear case. I got started on the lathe work,
boring out the stock that needs threaded but had to
stop going further as my inside threading bar isn’t going
to do the job. The bit in my threading bar sits back
3/8" from the end of the bar. I need to cut threads
within 1/8" from the bottom of the bore.
Perhaps one of you machinist can suggest a inexpensive
boring bar that would do the trick?
My lathe has the Aloris type quick change too holders.
The bit holders will take up to 1/2" square bit I believe,
but I use them with 3/8" bits. Also have a boring bar
holder that takes tools with 5/8" round shanks.
I’ve only tried inside threading a couple of times playing
around, so hopefully I can figure it out!Prepare to be boarded!
October 20, 2017 at 1:13 am #66400http://www.shars.com/catalogsearch/result/?cat=511&q=threading
Try this place and search through that page. Should be something there that wil work for you. I found something for internal threading from Shars that works very well for me, and my skills are negligible. I’ve bought a fair amount of tooling from them. Prices are pretty good and delivery is quick.
Hope this helps.
Best,
PM T2October 20, 2017 at 1:15 am #66401I just noticed something that I think is sort of stupid….. if I’m not logged in, I can see the pictures that are posted. If I log in, it says "You do not have the necessary permissions to view the files attached to this post".
That’s just f***ed up, pardon my French.
PM T2
October 20, 2017 at 1:35 am #66404PM T2, thanks for the link. I’ll give it a look see.
Prepare to be boarded!
October 20, 2017 at 6:45 am #66409Do you have a small boring bar which can hold a cutting bit at a 45° angle on one end? If so, you’ll want to grind the bit to the necessary angles needed to cut the thread close to the bottom of the bore. You really have to pay attention and do your math here as you don’t want to run the bit into the bottom of the bore under power! Guaranteed to ruin your day! 😀
October 20, 2017 at 11:10 am #66413Mumbles, what I have for boring only sets the bit at 90 degrees.
The old piece has a 1/8" relief cut at the bottom of the bore / threads.
Not much room to play with to know when the lathe is going to crash!
Seeing how I’m a novice on the lathe I do all my threading in back gear
to slow it down.
I was wondering laying in bed last night if I could make that relief cut
1/4" and not affect the function of the piece. Will look further today.
Thanks for the suggestions!Prepare to be boarded!
October 20, 2017 at 12:10 pm #66415threading in back gears is the only safe way to thread, unless your lathe is CNC controlled, and even then I always recommend using the lowest possible speed.
Best,
PM T2October 21, 2017 at 6:50 pm #66468I spent the last day and 1/2 making the new piece for the Johnson.
I couldn’t wait for the internal threading bar I ordered, but dug around
and found a lightweight, homemade, round-stock, tool with the end
bent 90 degrees and ground for threading. It worked okay,
but I had to make very light cuts.
The piece threads on real nice to the prop shaft gear threads,
so I was happier than a June groom.
I tried to make the piece a little "beefier" than the original,
but spend most of today "nipping and tucking" to get satisfactory
clearances.
As I was playing with all the parts, tipping the gear case "cone"
upside down, the little nickle sized slug (that goes between
the adjustable thrush washer/ bushing and adjustment thread)
fell out, and was never seen again. After crawling around on
my knees for ten minutes, I fired the lathe back up and made one
of those, lol.
All in all, it was a fun project, but don’t think I’ll going in the machining
business anytime soon.Prepare to be boarded!
October 22, 2017 at 1:27 pm #66485Wow, great job. If it had been me I’d still be searching for a parts doner.
October 22, 2017 at 3:48 pm #66491Thanks, That old, wore out $700 Logan lathe was
a good investment, and lots of fun playing with.Prepare to be boarded!
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