Home Forum Ask A Member 1941 Mercury KB-3 Top Crank Oil Seal?

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    Buccaneer
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      When I put the powerhead of the subject motor back together today,
      there sure looks like there’s room for a top crank oil seal.
      I never removed any, or else if “fell out” by itself and rolled away.

      I found a master parts list of sorts, for “K” model Mercs.
      It shows them all having a seal, and all the same part number.

      A 26-21642 < (79831)
      or
      Sierra 18-2055, with specs of .750 shaft, 1.127 OD, .149 thickness

      I dug through my seal supply, and found a CR seal that I measured with an OD
      of 1.1285, which one would think would work, but when I measure the
      bore of the crankcase where the seal would go, it seems to be “out of round”
      and varies between 1.115 to 1.120 diameter.

      That seems like way too tight of a fit, and of course the crankshaft is installed now,
      otherwise, machining on the OD would have been easier.

      Just wondering, did all these “K” models in 1941 have top crank seals?
      Or may I be trying to fix something that aint broke?

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      #271579
      The Boat House
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        A while a go I went through a 1941 Neptune horizontal twin that had a
        cork upper crankshaft seal. Possibly that is what was used on your Merc?
        Tubs

        #271582
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          According to the part book for “K” models, they were a neopreme seal.
          I went ahead and installed the CR seal I had on hand.
          I found that the seal bore was “out of round” because the thin
          bore shoulder was dented in slightly in a part lifetime.
          I did a little hand work with my “de-burrer” and finally
          got the seal in.

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          #271584
          green-thumbs
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            Industry standard seal part # 7415 is a physical fit for upper crankshaft seal on Early K Models. For this application there is no need to upgrade to special features which will multiply the cost without improving performance or service life.

            Louis

             

            Per seal catalog 7415 is for .750″ shaft,  1,124 O.D,  & .156 thick tMercury part number cross references to 7415

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            #271601
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              Louis, I had a CR seal CR 7414 on hand, and that’s what I ended up using.
              It seem to be a perfect fit once I got the crankcase bore doctored up a little.

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              #271615
              green-thumbs
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                7414 is slightly thicker 0,188″  Should work OK ,but, will need to be seated slightly deeper in pocket to be flush. It would have to be touchy application for 0.032″ difference in seal thickness to affect situation. I would still go with 7415 when sourcing a seal. I have used general industrial 7415 and have tried NAPA version intended for use in automobile transmission. The shell of NAPA did  not appear as robust or corrosion resistant.  I believe that for the limited use a restored motor might receive that corrosion resistance is the important consideration.

                so it seems to me

                Louis

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                  7414 is slightly thicker 0,188″  Should work OK ,but, will need to be seated slightly deeper in pocket to be flush. It would have to be touchy application for 0.032″ difference in seal thickness to affect situation. I would still go with 7415 when sourcing a seal. I have used general industrial 7415 and have tried NAPA version intended for use in automobile transmission. The shell of NAPA did  not appear as robust or corrosion resistant.  I believe that for the limited use a restored motor might receive that corrosion resistance is the important consideration.

                  so it seems to me

                  Louis

                  Louis, I have plenty of clearance above the seal with the points cam seated,
                  but saved your notes for “next time”. Thanks!

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                  #271628
                  crosbyman
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                    cover up the  exposed surface of the seal with a couple of  latex glue coats  or epoxy  for improved corrosion resistance.

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