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    aquasonic
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      Now I think I understand. My previous statement was under the assumption that the one way valve is at the threaded sparkplug hole end of the tester, not at the gauge as others have pointed out. If the volume of the tester hose is included in the measurement then yes, the reading will be lower.

      Congratulations scubachuck on getting your motor running again!

      #185218
      billw
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        Ah ha. I see where that would be a problem! I never saw a gauge with a hose, but the check valve nearer the gauge!

        Long live American manufacturing!

        #185239
        Buccaneer
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          I think I need a drink!

          Prepare to be boarded!

          #185241
          fleetwin
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            Nice to see that scubachuck was doing some actual work while the rest of us were fiddling around. Glad the engine is up and running again!

            #185262
            outbdnut2
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              Glad scubachuck got the engine running, and also glad that I think we all are in agreement now on the gauge issue, and we may have set a record for the most ways of trying to explain the same thing!
              I hope we didn’t leave a bunch of new-bees here confused!
              Everyone have a good Day!
              Dave

              #185269
              aquasonic
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                Here are a few pictures of the compression tester that I use.

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                It looks like the check valve is at the fitting, not at the gauge. In this case, this makes the hose and gauge a sealed system that only accepts greater pressure from the other side of the check valve. Air is always trying to seek equilibrium or equal pressure. As the piston reaches the top of it’s stroke, the maximum pressure is generated. Some of this pressure will enter the tester hose through the check valve, but only if the supplied pressure is greater than the pressure within the hose. Once the hose and gauge are pressurized to the maximum PSI that the piston can generate, the pressure will stop increasing in the tester because equilibrium has been reached. This is the reason why the gauge will top out after so many pulls of the starter rope.

                The concept of equilibrium also explains why a pressure tank can be pressurized by the crankcase, but only to the 5 or so PSI that the crankcase generates. Just as the piston tops out on compression, so does the crankcase. Just as the compression tester reaches maximum PSI, so does the tank. There are other more significant sources of vapor pressure in sealed tanks, namely heat and agitation, but those are separate issues. I’m hoping this explains things a little bit better. Maybe we have a club member with a PhD in Fluid Mechanics that can set the record straight!

                #185281
                The Boat House
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                  #185313
                  fleetwin
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                    Tubs, thanks for the pictures which are worth more than our thousands of words on this subject..
                    I’m done…

                    #185316
                    garry-in-michigan
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                      As an Evinrude Special Interest Group Leader I can’t show you mine – it’s made by Keikhoefer – if it were any shorter, the piston would hit the reset valve . . .

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