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    Aidan Smith
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      I have been convinced that resurrecting one of these is possible, while being a challenge.

      I have redone a Lightfour, but that was a couple years ago, and I will admit could have been done better.

      Looking for some pointers on parts finding, I’ve never actually run a 4-cylinder on a boat, so any advice or info would be amazing!

       

      Thanks,

      Aidan

      "Shells sink, dreams float. Life's good on our boat."
      1931 Johnson A-50
      1950 Mercury KF-7
      1951 Mercury KG-7
      1956 Johnson JW-12R

      #301919
      wedgie
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        I have read they can catch fire. <!–more–>He had to undo the clamps and drop it into the water.So carry a fire extinguisher I guess.

        There is a pamphlet somewhere online about the carb. One of the first designed with the help of a computer. I’ll link it if I can find it.

        I actually have some NOS parts.

         

         

        #301929
        Sam M.
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          I have not worked on one before, but I think I read or heard somewhere that the fire risk can come from a leaking fuel hose/fuel line/tank/fitting?? above some spark plug wires.  If you are worried about a fire on the water, maybe bring a fire blanket.  Shooting fire extinguisher foam onto an outboard where the excess will fall into the lake does not strike me as particularly eco-friendly.

          #301930
          PM T2
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            A few of them have been known to catch fire, but there’s a reason for that. Clean the carb, fuel pipe, and tank thoroughly before trying to run it.  The carb especially is finicky when it comes to being cleaned out properly. It can flood if there’s any dirt left in it that interferes with the inlet needle and seat and that flooding can cause it to back fire out through the carb, or it gets ignited by the spark plug wires which usually didn’t have insulating boots on them… at any rate, it reaches the point the motor now becomes a big gas-powered torch that is not easy to extinguish. But if you prep it correctly, you don’t have to worry about that.

            There’s also a vent tube in the gas tank that needs to be clear, you can usually see it in the filler neck with the cap off. Otherwise, they’re about the same as any other motor. Do the basic mechanical work as on any other old outboard. They do run very smooth and will idle down to nothing. Parts availability? They made a pezillion of the damned things so finding a parts motor shouldn’t be too hard if you get out to club events or get to know other collectors in your area. Model 4404 is one of the most common ones I’ve seen around FWIW.

            Hope this helps.
            Best,
            PM T2

            He's livin' in his own private Idaho..... I hope to go out quietly in my sleep, like my grand-dad did..... and not screaming, like the passengers in his car...

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            #301931
            joecb
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              What T2 said … be sure that there is absolutely no fuel leakage under that front cover.  A word on spark plugs and wires… stray sparks are how fires start., ensure that the wire insulation is in good shape and ring terminals secure.  A word about spark plugs… Zephyr takes a Champion J6. Now the modern version of these plugs have a bit longer porcline body than the older ones. This puts the exposed wire terminal closer to the front cover, a problem? maybe. But just to be safe I run an equlivant heat range plug with a short body. Champion makes such but I have had good luck running NGK BM7A’s.  Just be sure that the plugs that you buy have threaded studs to accept the spark plug rings terminals.

              Forge ahead, no fear!  Zephyr’s are fun motors and good runners.

              Joe B

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              #301944
              Aidan Smith
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                Thanks!

                One of my biggest worries is the fire as well, I always carry a fire extinguisher on board no matter what.

                I am bringing the motor to some winter night work meets, so I am hoping other members can give me a hand with the confusing carb.

                I plan on redoing the plugs/wires, and maybe adding insulated caps to the plug wires to reduce spark issue.

                I have figured that in addition to high quality plug wires, heat-shrinking them will add another layer between them and the raw metal.

                Any thoughts?

                 

                Aidan

                 

                "Shells sink, dreams float. Life's good on our boat."
                1931 Johnson A-50
                1950 Mercury KF-7
                1951 Mercury KG-7
                1956 Johnson JW-12R

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                crosbyman
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                  #301961
                  seakaye12
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                    Twin_Z

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                    #301966
                    Buccaneer
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                      That thing got your attention at Tomahawk when it was started up.
                      It was kind of hard to tell if it was hitting on all eight cylinders though, lol.

                      Prepare to be boarded!

                      #301967
                      Aidan Smith
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                        I’m not exactly sure how it works… but I LOVE it.

                        I also can’t even begin to imagine how loud it is.

                        Theres a few others laying around in that photo, someone likes the 4-cylinders!

                        Here are some photos of what I am working with.

                        I need a parts list that has the synchro under the mag plate for the throttle advance, which is model #4404.

                         

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                        "Shells sink, dreams float. Life's good on our boat."
                        1931 Johnson A-50
                        1950 Mercury KF-7
                        1951 Mercury KG-7
                        1956 Johnson JW-12R

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