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    Sputter
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      Hi,

      I’m for the first time rebuilding two Johnson pressure tanks.  I noticed that the cork floats for the fuel gauge have a redish color or coating (see photo).  One cork is nearly completely covered while the other is coated about halfway up.

      Is this a factory applied coating?  Or perhaps a kind of varnish that built up from sitting in old gas?

      Please advise on what I should do or not do to the cork before putting the tank back together.

      Thanks!

      1956 Johnson 15 Hp, FD-10
      1958 Johnson 5.5 Hp, CD-15

      #294275
      outbdnut2
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        The reddish stuff looks like old gas residue, but it could be some form of old seal-coat.  The corks, just like cork carb floats, do have a seal-coating, and if ethanol-gas mixture has been used, that attacks the seal coat and ruins it, and the cork usually sinks.  There are two kinds of natural cork.  One is open-cell cork and the other is closed-cell cork.  I replaced a tank cork with a wine bottle cork once without sealing it and it sunk within a week, so it was open-cell cork.   I would clean your cork off good, sanding if necessary to get all that stuff off.  Then seal-coat it with either clear, hot fuel proof model airplane “Dope”, or with super-glue.

        Dave

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        #294276
        crosbyman
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          brushed on super  glue seems to work but just  be careful   with fumes that sometimes  develop on the cork    Ventilate properly and keep fumes  away from the the eyes and  don’t inhale the stuff !!

           

          SG  usually ends  up on fingers so latex surgical gloves  can help  🙂

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          #294282
          Sputter
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            It looks like the same stuff I saw on a cork carburetor float, so you answered that question too.  I remember my brother painting Dope on model airplanes back in the ’60s.  I didn’t know you could still buy that stuff.  I have a big bottle of super glue so I’ll give that a try first.

            I also wondered about trying a wine cork!  AOMCI is great because chances are that somebody already solved my newbie problem.

            1956 Johnson 15 Hp, FD-10
            1958 Johnson 5.5 Hp, CD-15

            #294354
            outbdnut2
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              I remember my brother painting Dope on model airplanes back in the ’60s.  I didn’t know you could still buy that stuff.

              Dope is getting harder to find, as are traditional hobby shops that used to exist and sell it.   Source for clear hot fuel proof dope below:

              https://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/mid/mid65-4.htm

              #294356
              crosbyman
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                I never tried it on  cork using  a crazy glue  qwick  instant hardener..

                just mix  some rubbing alcool  1-2 oz in a small spray bottle  with 1/8  to 1/4 teaspoon of common baking soda diluted .

                a short burst from the spray bottle & the glue will harden instantly  !

                 

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                #294370
                Tubs
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                  Thread got me motivated to go out into the other building and check on my nu-coated float test. Not much has changed.     

                  A "Boathouse Repair" is one that done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

                  #294375
                  labrador-guy
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                    Thanks Tubs!  I was wondering how that old float test was doing.  I just fixed up a 1953 Evinrude.  That old float looked great!

                    dale

                    #294376
                    outbdnut2
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                      Hey Tubs,

                      There was a message string here a few years ago about whether cork needs to be coated to resist gasoline.  Somebody posted there are two kinds of cork, depending on the type of cork plant used.  There  is open-cell cork, and closed-cell cork, and no good way to tell which you have except to do what you are doing.  Open-cell cork needs to be coated or it will eventually sink, while closed-cell cork does not.  Several years before that post, I took a cork from a wine bottle and put it in a gas tank uncoated.   It sunk in about a month causing the gauge to read empty, so it was open-cell cork.

                      Dave

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                      #294379
                      aquasonic
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                        The old coating that you see on both tank and carburetor cork floats is shellac. The old shellac is not compatible with ethanol in modern fuel and degrades causing carburetor problems.

                        As others have stated, if the old cork is in good condition, then it can be scuff sanded and recoated. It is not necessary to remove all of the shellac because the new coating will seal it in against the fuel. Additionally, too much sanding will make the float volume less than original. I like to use two coats of dollar store original super glue with plenty of curing time before exposure to fuel mix.

                        For tank floats that are degraded, it’s very easy to make a nice new float. Just buy oversize cork stoppers at the local hardware store, center drill them and use a hand drill in a vise as a poor man’s lathe. I have used a paint stirring stick with sandpaper attached on the end to shape the float as it spins. Once setup it’s a good time to make some extras.

                        The last 90-degree bend in the float wire can be heated before bending straight to accommodate the new float. after sliding the new finished float on the wire, bend the wire back to 90-degrees without the use of heat.

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