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  • #37154
    jeff-register
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      US Member - 2 Years

      Sir,
      I had the same problem with a 1963 Merc 200. After assembly I could see I had very little sealer along the edges. I didn’t run mine but I could tell the sealer mated differently after splitting again. I was too playing with fire as my crank case & block were no longer a matched set. Before I had everything inside I put a 60 watt bulb inside the cases & looked for mating problems. I must of got very lucky as they must of been from the same run as they fit super together. That was maybe 3 years ago & it still starts great & idles down well. Wide open is smooth too. That truely was a parts motor as my mag was broken too. I honestly think your crankcases are leaking. I was nervous about using a little more sealer but it turns out well for me.

      #37157
      beerman57
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        Sir? You know me Jeff, we’ve talked on the phone – Bob Beer. When I do split the block again, hopefully it will be an easy cleanup and use a little more gel-seal, if I used any the first time, but I’m sure I did, that step seems pretty hard to forget.

        #37189
        fleetwin
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          US Member - 2 Years

          This is a tough judgement call for sure. The gel seal works well, but only when properly prepped and applied. That crankcase has a few studs instead of bolts, did you pull those out when you were cleaning/prepping the block halves? Like I say, the gel seal works well, but will not tolerate improper/incomplete prep. Even the factory couldn’t get it right for a few years. The type M is much more forgiving.
          In either case, it is extremely important to be sure all the old sealer has been removed, later service manuals mentioned using a black light to check for traces of gel seal. Then you must check the mating surfaces to ensure they are flat. Oftentimes, there are slightly raised surfaces, especially around the internal crankcase threads. Needless to say, extreme care must be taken when resurfacing raised surfaces. Removing any meat from the actual mating surfaces will cause the crank bushings/bearing to bind. Once you have cleaned the block halves, you could assemble the crankcase halves "dry" and check the outer mating surfaces with a feeler gage.
          The problem here is deciding whether or not disassembling that powerhead is necessary. You mention the engine idles great, which would indicate that the crankcase is sealed fairly well. If it were mine, I would follow Mumbles’ advice at this point. I would hate to see you pull it all apart, re-prep and seal, only to end up with the same condition.
          You mention it idles great, OK, but where is the low speed needle set? If it is set excessively rich (more than 1.5 turns out), this may indicate a sealing problem that you are solving by richening up the needle.
          Like I say, my 58 Sportwins all leave a pretty good oily sheen on the water when idling, I am always thinking there is an actual fuel leak, but never find one. I don’t know what would cause fuel to seep out past mount bolts and the shift lever, but am just guessing there is excessive back pressure inside the exhaust housing at idle, so I am questioning whether that relief (under the SS plate inside the ex hsg) is carbon plugged. Did you pull that cover off during the rebuild? You engine has a thermostat, is it getting up to temp?
          You are pretty frustrated at this point, like we all would be, might be best to put it aside for awhile and do some other projects…..

          #40266
          beerman57
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            Block halves have been resealed. Cleaned up good, plenty of gel seal on one side, the expensive primer on the other side. Probably could have put primer on both sides, it didn’t seem like it would hurt anything (crank, bearings, etc.) to get some overspray on it. Nice small bead of gel seal bulged out all along the seams. Powerhead bolted back down, just have to assemble all the rest, possibly today!

            #40270
            fleetwin
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              US Member - 2 Years

              you were correct, only put the primer on one side, the opposite side from the gel seal….You don’t want that gel seal to start settting up until the block halves are assembled and torqued…I’m sure it will be fine now….

              #40276
              beerman57
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                I’ll have to remember that, I think the directions say to prime both sides. But you sure don’t need gel seal on both sides.

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