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    David Bartlett
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      US Member - 2 Years

      Good Morning,

      I recently picked up a 1928 Johnson A-35 in great physical condition. The PO has painted a lot of the motor that I think should be left unpainted, and I believe the decal on the tank is not correct. Does anyone know if the tanks were painted or not on these?

      Ultimately, I will replace the decal and either paint or “un-paint” the tank, and other miscellaneous painted areas.

      Motor runs great after sitting for 25 years!

      David Bartlett
      Pine Tree Boating Club Chapter

      "I don't fully understand everything I know!"

      #285131
      The Boat House
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        David, it wouldn’t have been painted.
        Your gas tank would have been polished.
        While this is contradictory to what many
        believe here is some evidence to support
        this.
        What we call decals were actually
        “Transfers”. Using a water slid or vinyl
        decal wouldn’t matter as neither is what
        was used originally.
        These tanks are 2 pieces welded together.
        You can see the seam in parts of the tank
        where is doesn’t show but not where it
        does or where the transfer is applied.
        How did the happen?
        When I have removed what remained of an
        original transfer the tank is always polished
        underneath.
        Also the instructions for applying a transfer
        in an early Johnson manual starts with
        polishing the tank before replacing the
        transfer.
        Here are the instructions from a Johnson
        manual and some examples I have found
        when removing transfers that weren’t good
        enough to preserve.
        I don’t know when Johnson quit polishing
        the gas tank but from my experience they
        did well into the 30’s.
        It’s your motor now so you get to decide
        what would be best for it, what ever that
        should be.
        Tubs
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        #285132
        David Bartlett
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          US Member - 2 Years

          Tubs,

          Thanks for your insight.  Very helpful as always. I suspected that the tank was originally polished, and that someone has painted it and put on a different decal at some point to make it look nice inside. The biggest problem is that they did not use fuel resistant paint, so it will come off sooner than later as I like to run my motors.  I ran it in the tank at Lincoln Davis’s on Friday and it is a really nice running motor for having sat 20 years. Didn’t even have to clean the points!

          David Bartlett
          Pine Tree Boating Club Chapter

          "I don't fully understand everything I know!"

          #285134
          David Bartlett
          Participant

            US Member - 2 Years

            Decal on motor as found.

            David Bartlett
            Pine Tree Boating Club Chapter

            "I don't fully understand everything I know!"

            #285136
            The Boat House
            Participant



              You can tell that is a water slide decal by the way
              its coming off in pieces. A transfer normally wont
              unless it wasn’t applied correctly. The tank looks
              pretty good in your picture. Hope there are no
              surprises under the paint. Checked the PTBC
              You Tube channel. No video????
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              #285138
              David Bartlett
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                US Member - 2 Years

                Tubs,

                Here is a link to a video I did while running it.

                 

                https://youtube.com/shorts/S7Dnwh_AoSo?si=HZ1cIxAGnBpnThVB

                David Bartlett
                Pine Tree Boating Club Chapter

                "I don't fully understand everything I know!"

                #285152
                stanley
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                  US Member - 2 Years

                  I think the A35 is an under appreciated model .The fact that there are still so many running survivors is a testament to it’s dependable,simple and sturdy design.

                  #285176
                  The Boat House
                  Participant



                    That looks like a really nice example David.
                    If a motor gets painted early in it life it
                    protect the aluminum. Also the nickel on the
                    brass parts and the fuel lines. I’m betting your
                    going to find a really nice motor hiding under
                    that paint, including the gas tank.
                    Tubs
                    .

                    #285186
                    David Bartlett
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                      US Member - 2 Years



                      That looks like a really nice example David.
                      If a motor gets painted early in it life it
                      protect the aluminum. Also the nickel on the
                      brass parts and the fuel lines. I’m betting your
                      going to find a really nice motor hiding under
                      that paint, including the gas tank.
                      Tubs
                      .

                      Tubs,

                      I already cleaned the paint of the carry handle thingy and the fuel line and carb. There is a lot of the original nickel plating remaining. Why do people think paint is the answer?

                      Working on the muffler can now. Missing the inner one, but I can make a substitute. At least it was cheap paint and is coming off easy.

                      When I get brave, I will tackle the tank and hope there is no body filler hiding!

                      David Bartlett
                      Pine Tree Boating Club Chapter

                      "I don't fully understand everything I know!"

                      #285193
                      The Boat House
                      Participant



                        The paint shows pride of ownership. If its someone
                        that doesn’t know what they are doing that can be
                        a problem. Not so much the paint but when they try
                        work on the ignition, carb, gear case, and don’t know
                        what they’re doing. That usually results in some
                        damage.
                        Paint on a motor isn’t always bad as it can protect
                        what’s underneath, depending on when it was applied.
                        This RBM was covered in house paint. They even
                        painted the points. But under the paint was a really
                        nice motor. It had a nice gas tank. The original
                        owner had pined the reversing mechanism so it
                        wouldn’t operate and it was in mint condition. The
                        motor also had the optional tilt mechanism.
                        I expect you’ll find an unusually nice gas tank under
                        the silver paint. Someone that was good enough with
                        bondo so it wouldn’t show should have been able to
                        given it better paint job.
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