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    Buccaneer
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      George, thanks for the informational reply on the bearings.
      I didn’t even know a person could purchase individual, oversized rollers.
      I’ll have to do an Internet search for those, just in case.

      My problem right now, is that I can’t even get the port head off to check out
      the compression relief valves. It’s stuck on the studs and won’t budge after
      several days of trying all kinds of magic.

      I suppose, if I wanted to get into the crankcase, I could remove the cylinders
      with the head attached, correct?
      Thanks!

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      #267870
      george-emmanuel
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        I’ve dealt with this before and it is aggravating to say the least. Yes, remove the cylinder/ head assembly and try a wood dowel from inside the bore to tap the head off. If you can get a little movement, then work it in and out going from one bore to the other. The problem is corrosion around the head studs has locked the heads in place. Usually whatever penetrating oil you use won’t get past the corrosion until you get a little movement. Heads are scarce, so take your time and work carefully.

        George

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          I’ve dealt with this before and it is aggravating to say the least. Yes, remove the cylinder/ head assembly and try a wood dowel from inside the bore to tap the head off. If you can get a little movement, then work it in and out going from one bore to the other. The problem is corrosion around the head studs has locked the heads in place. Usually whatever penetrating oil you use won’t get past the corrosion until you get a little movement. Heads are scarce, so take your time and work carefully.

          George

          Thanks George, I may yet try removing the cylinder with the head still attached.
          The powerhead is still hanging from my engine crane via the head.
          Brass punch and hammer on the studs did nothing, nor the air hammer
          on the studs. The last two days I’ve ignored the powerhead while I worked
          on other components, but did spray some more penetrating oil on the studs.

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          bobw
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            Buc – if you have some, you might also try soaking the head studs with Evaporust.   On my FD-12 project, I found that seemed to work better than penetrating oils in finally breaking loose the bad corrosion and wicking down into the threads on my broken exhaust cover screws.

            Bob

            1937 Champion D2C Deluxe Lite Twin
            1954 Johnson CD-11
            1957 Evinrude Fastwin 18
            1958 Johnson QD-19
            1958 Johnson FD-12
            1959 Johnson QD-20

            “Every 20 minute job is only a broken bolt away from a 3-day project.”
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            #267887
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              Buc – if you have some, you might also try soaking the head studs with Evaporust.   On my FD-12 project, I found that seemed to work better than penetrating oils in finally breaking loose the bad corrosion and wicking down into the threads on my broken exhaust cover screws.

              I thought about trying other substances around the studs.
              I wonder if it’s “rust” on the steel studs, or aluminum corrosion
              cementing the head on, and what would be the best snake oil
              for the later? Caustic?

              Hopefully none of the harsh chemicals would make it’s way
              into the cylinder before I got the head off.
              I have some phosphoric acid, which I could try around the center
              studs, as the head is counterbored there and any fluid can’t escape.
              Thanks.

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              #267896
              Mumbles
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                No tips but just gotta say that the person who invents a solution which will safely dissolve the white corrosion buildup between aluminum and steel parts will become a rich, rich man!

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                #267898
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                  Mumbles, is it too late to become a chemist?
                  I have an ignition module for a 1990 Ford pickup
                  that I can’t install, because the aluminum base
                  distributer in the intake manifold is froze solid.
                  Need some magic for that as well!
                  I hired out snowplowing last winter because the
                  old truck will only start if it’s 30 deg F. or warmer!
                  Not of much use for much of the winter in MN!

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                  #267901
                  Mumbles
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                    No, it’s never too late to study chemistry, especially for finding a solution to this problem.

                    Around my area, where many motors have seen salt water use, sometimes the only way to free up stubborn parts is by bringing out the big gun, the trusty Mexican socket set!  It has to be used diligently though as it can cause more harm than good.

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                      Maybe I better button it up and at least hear it run once before I get the torch out!
                      The stuck head just laughed at the little propane bottle torch.

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                      #269602
                      fmanracer
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                        So, if you haven’t got the head off yet I’d suggest you do as George suggests and take the whole cylinder off with the head on it. With it off you can turn it over and use a 2 x 4 rounded up to fit the 2 3/8ths bore. Use the 2 x 4 as a punch to push the head off from the inside. A couple hits on one side then the other to try to bring the head off evenly. A couple of suggestions are not to try pulling on sparkplug threads. They will pull out. Take the sparkplugs off as the suction they make while installed makes it harder to remove the cylinder.

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