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    PM T2
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      I posted this in the current projects forum too, but thought I’d put it here as well so non-members can see it and maybe get further infected by the bug for old iron.

      I did most of this work awhile ago but was doing more research on the topic and I don’t think many have seen a video of it being started, so here it is…

      1931 Elto Super C. The model number is 613, serial number is 0002. The 613 model designates it as an Inertia start motor, as were about 31 other motors that Evinrude-Elto built in 1931-32. Anyway, this is the only known example of a survivor Eclipse Aviation built Inertia starter that was originally installed at the factory. (There is one other starter in existance, but it got transplanted or retrofitted onto a 1930 outboard).
      Cleaned-up-2-1
      cleaned-up-1-1
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      Its a joy to start it. Sort of. Noisy as heck, and the starter grinds on forever after the motor starts until all the built-up inertia in the rotating assembly is finally spent. Motor sounds good tho. Anyway, enjoy the racket.

      PM T2

      He's livin' in his own private Idaho..... I hope to go out quietly in my sleep, like my grand-dad did..... and not screaming, like the passengers in his car...

      #308406
      Bob Wight
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        Well, that’s certainly different!   Beautiful motor though.

        Bob

        1937 Champion D2C Deluxe Lite Twin
        1954 Johnson CD-11
        1955 Johnson QD-16
        1957 Evinrude Fastwin 18
        1957 Evinrude 3022
        1958 Johnson QD-19
        1958 Johnson FD-12
        1959 Johnson QD-20
        1982 Evinrude 25hp

        “Every 20 minute job is only a broken bolt away from a 3-day project.”
        "Every time you remove a broken or seized bolt an angel gets his wings."

        #308417
        mas
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          US Member

          Very cool!

          Mas

          #308446
          Buccaneer
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            That ought to be a $10,000 outboard, given its rarity,
            and probably worth that for the “cool factor”!
            I’m pretty sure I’ve seen videos of the airplane version starting, but
            can’t wrap my mind around as to exactly how the inertia device
            works. Homework needed.

            Prepare to be boarded!

            #308468
            PM T2
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              Canada Member

              Here’s the link to the pertinent patent if you want to scroll through it and decipher all the engineerese.

              https://patents.google.com/patent/US2048075A/en?inventor=Raymond+P.+Lansing&oq=Raymond+P.+Lansing&page=8

              PM T2

              He's livin' in his own private Idaho..... I hope to go out quietly in my sleep, like my grand-dad did..... and not screaming, like the passengers in his car...

              #308525
              JOSEPH BRINCAT
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                Pretty cool for sure. We depend on T2 to come up with this cool and unusual stuff. Yes , an airplane starter system, which airplanes?? I think remember seeing WII fighter planes being cranked up. Some of the aviation guys here may chime in on that.

                Joe

                PS , hope to see ya’ all at Lockeman’s March 28th

                #308584
                Buccaneer
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                  US Member

                  Thanks.

                  Inertial Starter Patent pdf. —

                  Inertia-Starter-Patent

                  Prepare to be boarded!

                  #308639
                  Tubs
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                    I suspect the cost to manufacture, and possibly its weight, or both, had much to do with its rarity. Why wouldn’t anyone want not to have one any outboard motor. When you consider the time, and the tooling, that they had back then, what they were able to accomplish is just amazing to me.

                    A "Boathouse Repair" is one thats done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

                    #308714
                    Buccaneer
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                      Tubs, truly amazing indeed. Kind of like finding
                      the “Holy Grail”.
                      The engineering that went into that is beyond belief.

                      Prepare to be boarded!

                      #308720
                      Tubs
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                        Pretty cool for sure. We depend on T2 to come up with this cool and unusual stuff. Yes , an airplane starter system, which airplanes?? I think remember seeing WII fighter planes being cranked up. Some of the aviation guys here may chime in on that.

                        Joe

                        PS , hope to see ya’ all at Lockeman’s March 28th

                        Video Link   https://youtu.be/3zXkVQnVmuo?si=yPFO1-bxG84l-LSW 

                         

                        A "Boathouse Repair" is one thats done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

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