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    vintage.1958
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      Hello, I have a 1956 Gale 12D13 outboard that I found seized. Both connecting rods were seized to the crankshaft. There doesn’t appear
      to be any noticeable damage to the rods or crankshaft. I measured the rods and crankshaft and found the connecting rod crank
      ends to be .870 – .872 and are .002 out of round. The specifications call for the crankpins to be .873 – .8735 and the rod crankpin bores
      .874 – .8745 Both crank pins on the crank shaft are .873 and are not out-of-round. I’m curious as to why the connecting rods are smaller than the crank shaft
      crankpins. As I stated before, there is no noticeable damage to the rods or crankshaft. Why would they be undersized in relation to the crankpins?

      #176134
      frankr
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        Only logical explanation is somebody filed the caps to “adjust” them. Don’t feel bad, that’s one of the first mistakes I made when I first started working on motors while still in high school. Part if the learning process.

        You can cut some shims from brass shim stock to salvage the rods. If you can find somebody to sell you some shim stock without giving you a stare like you are stupid or something.

        • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by frankr.
        #176139
        vintage.1958
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          Never gave that a thought. I’m old enough to know what shim stock is 🙂 I have some sitting around here someplace. Thank you!

          #176157
          dan-in-tn
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            Might be easier to hone the rod bores that little bit? Just a suggestion. Might make them rounder again too.

            Dan in TN

            #176167
            frankr
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              Nope, absolutely not. I’m sure Dan knows this but hasn’t thought about it. Those rods are silver plated and the silver is the bearing. Hone it out and the bearing is gone.

              #176169
              garry-in-michigan
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                Earlier rods had a cast in bronze insert in the load bearing side. Testing proved the silver plated rods were stronger. I have used silver bearing solder on bronze that was excessively worn. Incidentally, honing does not guarantee a round bearing surface. To be really accurate you need a reamer.

                #176173
                dan-in-tn
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                  I am aware of the silver plating and bronze insert. The gentleman states the rods are out of round approximately .002. My understanding was the silver was there as an aid to breakin? Just as OMC continued to use on cages of the roller bearings of much later engines. Garry, I agree honing might not true the hole, but he is looking for clearance. It was just a suggestion. I don’t think he would ever ream .001 or .002 smoothly. The clearance on these rods is critical. I would look for NOS rods myself.

                  Dan in TN

                  #176179
                  jeff-register
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                    GG9120A is the Sea King equlivent. Frank, Reminds me of the old Chevy Babbit beaters Remove shims to remove wear. They had a 15lb oil pump.

                    #176241
                    vintage.1958
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                      Thank you for all the suggestions. I was able to get one rod shimmed at .006 and it turns freely. I will be doing the other rod soon. readings might have been off, haven’t measured anything in a long time.

                      #176254
                      frankr
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                        You obviously have it apart. Be sure to replace the lower main bearing seal. Those motors were plagued by seal failure, which let water into the crankcase. Water and rust destroyed the silver plating and the remainder of the aluminum rod would melt and fuse to the crankpin. Most people would look at it and say it was an oil failure. Nope, it was a water problem, not an oil problem.

                        12hp-Gale-lower-seal-2

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