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  • #224500
    outbdnut2
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      I’ve used liquid wrench to unstick rings. Have heard that Kroil works good too, but haven’t tried it.
      Dave

      #224601
      fleetwin
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        OK, so the powerhead sure looks OK on the inside….What was seizing it up? Or, perhaps the gearcase is seized. Those head bolt studs will come out with a little heat. The block/head surfaces look OK also…. What is the grey stuff on the head gasket??

        #224602
        Evinrude 25
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          Just spay some WD-40 and it comes out. A bit rust on the lower cylinder wall (see the picture) and the piston (red circle). Does it look acceptable and could be cleaned up with a quick honing? Should I order the new ring or just use the old ring. New ring is too much expensive!

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          #224606
          fleetwin
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            Looks pretty good to me. “Never judge a book by its cover”…..

            #224611
            Evinrude 25
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              There are 3 things seized up: The mag plate got seized up with the block neck, the gear case got seized up and the lower piston got seized up at the intake port. The water contacts the piston at the intake port (red circle on the picture). I have removed all the bolts out without heat. I have no ideal of the grey stuff on the head gasket. Only ATF contacted the head gasket when I removed it so. Not sure what you refer to the gray stuff.

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              #224615
              fleetwin
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                You have got the area circled that I am referring to…. Probably just some schmutz that the head was laying on after removal. The only reason I pointed this out was to emphasize the importance of inspecting the block/head mating surfaces carefully. This series of engines is known for aluminum erosion in this area….
                OK, so the gearcase is seized also….You better pull that apart to see if it is salvageable before going too much further….

                #224616
                Evinrude 25
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                  I am glad it turns out good inside. By the look of out side, I expected all bearings, crankshaft got rusted since it was in the water and people just hang it in the garage for a couple years.
                  So It will be my winter project to get this one back running. I had the learning experience from my 1973 20 Hp so this one should go well.

                  #224617
                  Evinrude 25
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                    I attach the block and the gasket side by side and the block at this area looks clean. The gearcase was torn apart already I will post the picture for you to advice if it is rebuildable. I have never done the lower unit before so some advices will be appreciated.

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                    #224620
                    fleetwin
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                      US Member - 2 Years

                      Well, the block sure “looks good”…Just wondering what the stuff is that seems to be stuck to the head gasket, you see it don’t you? The area to check in the gearcase is/are the bushings cast in for the driveshaft/pinion areas. Running the gearcase with no oil tends to wobble out these bushings, that are not replaceable….

                      #224634
                      outbdnut2
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                        Looks like you lucked out! On your piston photo, on the piston on the left, be sure to spin one of those rings around so the gaps of the two rings aren’t in-line.
                        Dave

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