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  • #279657
    Buccaneer
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      Has anyone tried this method to fill minor dents?

      If it worked, it might make the corners of my Lightwin tank
      a little more pleasing.

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      #279660
      joecb
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        US Member - 2 Years

        Interesting tip, thanks for posting that , Bucc.  From my knowledge if the materials sited, it should work as advertised.  The Alladdin ( flea market) rod is mostly zinc and yes is much harder than aluminum and wil turn dark with age, I’ll have to give it a try.

        Joe B

        #279662
        The Boat House
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          I have some experience repairing aluminum
          square tanks and have used the aluminum
          brazing rod on a few occasions. How much it
          shows depends on how the light hits it.
          My limited experience is, polishing keeps it from
          graying. Getting enough heat in the part to get
          the stuff to stick is a challenge for me. If I
          can overcome that applying solder would make
          getting a level surface much easier.
          I saw your gas tank repair last week in projects
          and got me motivated to start on this one I
          need to get done. Didn’t last long though as it
          been sitting on the floor ever since.
          Tubs

          #279668
          Buccaneer
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            Holy Cow, that tank looks like a challenge!
            Did you use “air only” to get the major dents out?
            Looks like you had the tank well caged.

             

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            #279694
            The Boat House
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              My approach is to work on one section at a time regulating the air pressure
              to push the surface out. Then, using mostly my plastic hammer, I knock back
              the high points, thereby bringing up the low spots. Success varies.
              Several times I thought I had this all figured out only to learn that I don’t.
              Tubs
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              #279712
              joecb
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                US Member - 2 Years

                Tubs has the right approach, there is a real risk of turning the tank into a “football” if high air pressure is used absent the flat constraints. I attended a seminar at Constantine last July put on by Jay Walls about tank restoration, he made the point about too much pressure with out restraints. Another approach that is referred to in that old Jounsom shop manual is to use low pressure ( 3- 4 PSI ?) and apply heat to the dented area. This will weaken the localized area allowing it to move, not affecting the cooler area.  This only works on shallow dents, if there are “creases” , its a no – go. If there are creases locking in the dent, the only fix is cutting the tank open and doing hammer and dolly work.

                Joe B

                #279715
                The Boat House
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                  There are any number of videos on You Tube on removing dents
                  from (motorcycle) gas tanks without cutting them open.
                  While cutting open a tank can really speed up the process with
                  time and patience I have learned how to removed most issues from
                  a tank. After getting a tank as straight as possible using air (above)
                  I move to the method in the video description box. The process is
                  ongoing as I’m always trying different things to use as tools but its
                  really nothing more than everyday automotive bodywork.
                  https://youtu.be/U5NActQ9LOw?si=M7GCMUck77dCvi3K
                  Tubs
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                  #279719
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                    Tubs, in the video comments, or your info.?, it mentions pulling dents
                    via slide hammer and hot glue. I’ve seen videos of that on auto body panels,
                    which would be easier to manipulate than an outboard aluminum gas tank.
                    If you use the “hot glue” method, I’m sure we’d all be interested in seeing
                    the tools or procedure that works. Thanks.

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                    #279722
                    The Boat House
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                      There’s not much to it. You glue on what ever your
                      using and pull. If it comes off and it didn’t move
                      far enough you glue it back on and pull on it again.
                      Too far? Knock it back in. The black marker shows
                      the highs and lows. Just like using a guide coat when
                      doing bodywork. That what will get you to a flat
                      surface.
                      Tubs

                      #279734
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                        Tubs, I’ll have to give the “glue” method a try for pulling dents sometimes.
                        I’m surprised it even sticks good enough to pull dents.

                        I went to the big city today to look for the 95% (Tin) / 5% (Antimony” solder
                        as mentioned in the article. The closest I could find was some 95% Tin, and 5%
                        silver, sold for “Hobbiest and Jewelers”.

                        I tinned the three dent areas on one back corner of the tank, using the
                        alumi-weld rods, then used a little bottle gas torch to heat of the dents
                        and melt the solder in. The dents, being on a rounded corner of the tank,
                        was the first challenge. Filling in a dent on a flat are would have been easier.
                        It seem like the solder I bought was a little hard to get to flow how I wanted it.
                        The solder did seem to adhere okay to the pre-tinned areas though, and not
                        at all to the bare aluminum.
                        The solder was plenty hard when filing and sanding. I ended up using a sanding
                        disc in the drill to level it out, then sanding with a board.
                        The area I repaired kind of looked like a bad Bondo job, except using solder.
                        Perhaps practice, the correct solder, and more patience would help!

                        The solder I used. I only found some “previously owned” solder on EBay that
                        had the 5% Antimony. ……. not sure if they make the correct stuff or not,
                        will have to look some more.

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                        “Before photo”

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                        “After photo”
                        I tried filling in some of the tiny pits on the repair areas, using the same
                        solder, and my electric soldering gun, with limited success.

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