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    davidk
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      I recently got a Johnson BN that’s mostly there except for the starboard jug.  Dug through a box of them at Lincoln Davis’ shop and found a port side jug but no starboard.  Found a powerhead in my barn with a blown out starboard jug.  It’s got me wondering.  Is it a known issue for the starboard cylinder to be the one that fails on these early Johnsons?  Does the cooling water somehow settle there and freeze (in Maine) or rust out?

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      #330284
      Buccaneer
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        The PO-37 that I’m working on now, also has a bad starboard side
        cylinder. Cracked on top and bottom, and full of scale, and it even
        seemed to push in the cylinder, pinching the piston.

        Prepare to be boarded!

        #330285
        davidk
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          Must have been a problem in the starboard side of the factory?

          #330286
          JOSEPH BRINCAT
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            Looks like freeze damage… anything in the design of the coolant passages/ tubing that would preclude draining the STBD cylinder? Any reason that these motors would have tended to be stored laying on the STBD side? … strange!!

            Joe B

            #330290
            Tubs
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              As you know, living close to the Maine coast, in winter, the earth reaches perihelion, the point in its orbit where it’s closest to the Sun. Because the gravitational pull increases with proximity, the sun’s tidal forces are at their strongest. When the moon aligns with the sun during a full moon, their combined pull generates unusually high, high tides. Likewise, on a cold night, when a full moon rises, any water remaining in the motor, is pulled in to the starboard cylinder, where it freezes!!! (AI – SI – BS)

              A "Boathouse Repair" is one thats done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

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              #330301
              RICHARD A. WHITE
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                As you know, living close to the Maine coast, in winter, the earth reaches perihelion, the point in its orbit where it’s closest to the Sun. Because the gravitational pull increases with proximity, the sun’s tidal forces are at their strongest. When the moon aligns with the sun during a full moon, their combined pull generates unusually high, high tides. Likewise, on a cold night, when a full moon rises, any water remaining in the motor, is pulled in to the starboard cylinder, where it freezes!!! (AI – SI – BS)

                I LIKE that ……lol

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                #330310
                elgin2
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                  As you know, living close to the Maine coast, in winter, the earth reaches perihelion, the point in its orbit where it’s closest to the Sun. Because the gravitational pull increases with proximity, the sun’s tidal forces are at their strongest. When the moon aligns with the sun during a full moon, their combined pull generates unusually high, high tides. Likewise, on a cold night, when a full moon rises, any water remaining in the motor, is pulled in to the starboard cylinder, where it freezes!!! (AI – SI – BS)

                  That sounds like something Cliff Clavin would say. 😂😂😂😂

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                  JOSEPH BRINCAT
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                    And here I was thinking that it was all about the coriolis forces but no, it’s gravitational pull of the moon… the “tide inside”

                    Thanks Tubs..

                    Joe B

                    #330338
                    PM T2
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                      My experience with these motors is that you’re not going to find any apparent major difference in the castings from one side to the other that are going to contribute to one side suffering freeze breakage more often than the other.

                      I’d suggest that its nothing more than just bad luck combined with the habit of previous owners of storing the motor laying on its side with the starboard cylinder on the bottom with water trapped in the cooling passages.

                      I’ve seen breakage evident on both cylinders in some motors, and only one side or the other in some others. FWIW I’ve had three motors that had weld repairs on the port side cylinders while the starboard side was fine. to me, its more logical to find the port side damaged this way, simply because most people wouldn’t/shouldn’t store the motor with the fuel petcock on the side of the tank that is the lowest.

                      This conversation points to the importance of using the drain provided on the side of the water pump. With the motor standing level, removing the screw allows the water to completely drain from the powerhead. Rotating the flywheel while the drain is open helps drain things more thoroughly too, BTW. Apparently, not enough original owners of old motors were diligent enough about caring for their motor properly, and the evidence of this usually shows up just after you paid for the motor.

                      PM T2

                      He's livin' in his own private Idaho..... I hope to go out quietly in my sleep, like my grand-dad did..... and not screaming, like the passengers in his car...

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                      #330340
                      Tubs
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                        For those that may not know, this would be the drain screw T2 is speaking of. You should be aware that the thread (I believe its 14×24) is no longer available so be careful with them.

                        Johnson-Screws

                        A "Boathouse Repair" is one thats done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

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