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    olcah
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      My experience with Big Twins is limited to five motors including three 1956 Johnson 30HP. But I suggest that you just concentrate on getting the motor to run. First address the lower crank seal. You can change shaft length later if you care and address any safety concerns you have once it runs. In my limited experience to correct the lower seal issue you will wind up opening the crankcase anyway. If you do open the crankcase, you should replace the top crank seal too. (easy).

      As discussed, to change the seal from lip seal to carbon type you would change the lower bearing, and add the parts associated with the carbon seal.
      The carbon seal parts are shown in the parts list for the 1956 Big Twins.

      The 1955/56 BigTwins are sweet running motors worth the trouble and cost to bring back into service.

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      #246163
      Nicholas Keller
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        Any micro switch common to industry would work, most are double pole single throw 1 set contacts normally closed one set normally open. Position switch on shift linkage where it can be activated in neutral or use two switches one activated forward one activated in reverse. Either setup will be wired in series between starter solenoid and key or push button switch. If running 2 switch setup wire switches in parallel so either switch will interrupt starter signal to solenoid. Single switch activated in neutral should allow signal to pass to starter whilst activated and be open whilst switch is not activated. It isn’t a correct to build set up but, it is a safety system being retrofitted, therefore I see no harm in modifications being made. Placement may be tricky not too familiar with big twin set up, but on the 22CI motors I’d set it up to activate off the magneto plate detent arm as it is only fully in by the magneto plate in neutral; reverse and froward it moves away from the power head and magneto plate.

        • This reply was modified 2 years, 7 months ago by Nicholas Keller. Reason: Typing too fast for logic
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        #246204
        outboardnut
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          I sure would like to know how to exactly do this micro switch work around on a big twin

          #246219
          Nicholas Keller
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            Studying the photos in this post the lay out is the same mechanically as the Fastwin (19.5-22 CI motors) making a bracket will be required. If solenoid is not mounted under the cowl you may need to add wires. Unsure of how exactly the factory mercury switch works, I would presume it to interrupt the starter solenoid trigger from the ignition switch or starter button if this is the case wiring it in place of mercury switch would work. None of my engines had a mercury switch so I came up with this after a good scare which made stressful situation worse. Positioning can be challenging depending on size of switch. The ones with longer metal arms usually help I don’t like the ones with rollers on the end as they are typically too bulky. Honeywell V3L-1122-D8 is a good switch to work with. Though confirm specifications can handle amperage load of starter solenoid. I used this switch as I had a couple laying around. Currently I don’t have an engine readily available to photograph with modifications I have mentioned. Re sealing power head on my 1970 Johnson 25 hp, which had this modification installed.

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            #246238
            outboardnut
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              Excuse me but I am not the sharpest pencil in the box.But what would mechanically activate the micro switch?

              Circuit

              lower-pic

              lower-unit-parts-list

              #246243
              outboardnut
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                powere-head

                RDE-17-power-head-list

                #246275
                Nicholas Keller
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                  Part 35 “shifter lock” on second photo posting. That will be closest to the power head in neutral

                  #246277
                  outboardnut
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                    This winter I will be working on a RD-17 (in pieces now)
                    I will check out how feasible it actually would be.
                    Thanks

                    #246313
                    Nicholas Keller
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                      Sounds good.

                      #250576
                      Shamus
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                        OutboardNut, thanks for your info to date. Its been a great help. Are you back to a place where I could give you a call? I’d like to chat about what parts I will need to acquire to change that carbon seal. I pulled off the magneto found what appears to be oil all over the bottom of the magneto. Is this a sign that both the upper and lower crankshaft seals are gone bad? Is there a test to show where the oil has come from?

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