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  • #251288
    The Boat House
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      Taking a break from this project motor for next summer
      I decided to do some experiment with one of these
      Kawasaki John Deere ignition modules to see of what
      value they might be to me. The magneto I’m using is from
      Pal, Scout, Ranger 1 hp. motor that is also found on other
      motors including some small Sea King’s and Johnson’s.
      Although small, with the spark plug out, these magneto’s
      will produce a spark with a quick twist by hand. Using
      the module I was able to produce a spark but am unsure
      if it will start and run this motor. The magneto must spin
      much faster to produce the same spark as with the points
      and condenser.
      Here is a video
      Tubs

      https://youtu.be/XKrkCAWK2c4

      #252024
      The Boat House
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        Wasn’t impressed with the spark when replacing the points
        and condenser with just this electronic ignition module.
        Occurred to me I may have better luck if I also use a coil
        from an electronic ignition as electronic ignition coils don’t
        work with Points. Finding something that could be put
        on the lams, would be small enough to fit under the
        flywheel, and all the wires are located where the don’t
        interfere with anything that’s moving is a challenge
        with so many to choose from and just pictures to look at.
        The first few coils I ordered were of no value size wise
        but this one has potential. I chose this magneto because
        I had a bad coil to get laminates from. This original coil
        is no longer available and there is no substitute known
        to me.
        Tubs

        https://youtu.be/GAouFR9BpzY

        #252060
        Buccaneer
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          US Member

          Looks like it throws a nice spark! What kind of “Wizardry” is going on with
          that spark tester. Is that a vacuum gauge?

          Prepare to be boarded!

          #252251
          The Boat House
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            These spark plug testers are suppose to be
            able to check the spark under pressure
            as was one function of these early cleaner/
            testers.
            However – tester # 1 spark isn’t being
            generated buy a spark plug.
            Tester #2 can test a spark plug however
            I don’t believe either could generate
            enough pressure to be of any real use.
            I have a collection of devices to check
            spark. Some manufactured, others home
            made. I use # 1 a lot as (after some
            modification) the clips make it easy to
            use, I can adjust the gap by turning the
            studs the wires are attached to, and
            the spark is relatively visible compared
            to other testers I have tried. The pump
            and gauge have no value other than
            something to hold on to in IMO.
            Tubs

            https://youtu.be/WNYoXaZGWsY

            #252311
            Buccaneer
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              US Member

              Those testers look like something JC Whitney would have sold back in the 70’s.
              They had all kinds of “gadgets”, kind of like the back of a comic book, but
              for older kids! I always wanted to order the X-ray glass from the comic books,
              but never did……. suppose they still have them?

              Prepare to be boarded!

              #252319
              joecb
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                US Member - 2 Years

                Tubs, as always, great work and thanks for posting. Please keep us informed of developments on the electronic option.
                I see potential for an article in the Outboarder

                Joe B

                #252320
                joecb
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                  US Member - 2 Years

                  Testers …. It has always been my opinion that you get the same effect as increased air pressure by just increasing the spark gap on a regular tester

                  Joe B

                  #252336
                  The Boat House
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                    #253539
                    The Boat House
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                      #253557
                      Mumbles
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                        Would the new coil you are trying already have a module built into it? If not, it might require twelve volts.

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