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  • #255718
    green-thumbs
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      US Member - 2 Years

      First experience with OMC Universal Magneto is not going well. Coils were cracked and ignition leads stiff. Removed coils and removed magneto from powerhead to access and remove old ignition leads. Installed new leads and coils…The magneto assembly attaching screws can not be accessed with coils in place and the ignition lead hold downs are difficult to release or tighten with magneto assembly mounted to powerhead.

      What am I missing.?

      Louis

       

      #255720
      crosbyman
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        Canada Member - 2 Years

        the retaining plate under the magneto has 4 screw holes which must line up up the 2  long coil bolts and the 2  small base bolts

        the  4 holes come as 2 pairs  and must line up with the bolt positions       so what I   do is take  a bamboo skeweer  and poke it down a coil long bolt hole till it fits  (lines up) in  the retaining plate  mating hole

        when  that happens all 4 screws (blots) will line up…

        if not you  are off-set by one screw hole …. remove the mag plate  and  readjust the retaining   plate holes  under the mag plate to line  up  with the bolt holes

        poke the skeweer as before and begin turning  the mag  plate till the skeweer  drops (lines up) with a screw hole..under the coil . retest and all 4  should line up  with the retaining plate.

         

        voilà… bolt it up  careful with the point rub blocks and oiler pad when fitting the mag plate

        takes a few tries but  you will succeed

        did you download the Johnson manual ???   see  pages 29 and up

        Johnson (leeroysramblings.com)

        retainer ring is tapered… flat side goes UP                  taper DOWN

         

        for ??? ….the ignition lead hold downs are difficult to release or tighten with magneto assembly mounted to powerhead.

        the plug wire hold downs  must be  accessed and tighten while the mag plate if off the power head.   when all is tiddy.. reinstall the mag plate

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        #255759
        green-thumbs
        Participant

          US Member - 2 Years

          More answer than I expected. Will digest and go at it again.

          Thank You

          Louis

          #255760
          crosbyman
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            Canada Member - 2 Years

            the red book for members only is under

            MEMBERS ONY  tab

            INNNER SANCTUM tab  then go to LIBRARY

            in LIBRARY…find  GARRY SPENCER’S DROP BOX

            in G.S.D.B go all the way down to the RED book

            Download and print locally at a print shop where they can bind the 400  pages with a spring binder  ( I did 2 books x 200 pages each ) …lays flat  have them put plastic cover sheets .

             

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            #255761
            joecb
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              US Member - 2 Years

              It’s been said before …. “There are benefits to membership”

              Joe B

              #255773
              labrador-guy
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                US Member - 2 Years

                Louis what are you doing working on OMC anything?   We know that is not your color outboard!   Some of us also know that you are the man when it comes to preWW2 Mercury’s and Wizards.  Maybe you have a neighbor that needs a favor?  or a rich uncle?  or a lady friend?

                Whatever, it is good to hear from you.

                dale

                #255841
                fleetwin
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                  US Member - 2 Years

                  Not quite sure just what you are asking…  It is easier to get the new plug leads inserted into the coils first, before clamping the leads under the mag plate.  Temporarily fasten the coils to the mag plate with the new leads installed, then flip the mag plate over and install all the wire clamps/throttle arms etc.  Yes, this is a bit of a wrestling match for sure.  Do be careful fastening the clamps with the mag plate flipped, you don’t want to damage the coils.  You could always just get a few clamps started, the remove the coils again, so you can tighten down all the wiring clamps and arms securely without damaging the coils.

                  #255852
                  green-thumbs
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                    US Member - 2 Years

                    I am not an expert on Early K Model Kiekhaefers…if anything, I have more experience with them than most…that is to say I have made more mistakes aka learning experiences.

                    Lightwin picked up at a meet several years ago finally got its turn on work bench. Due to long gap between taking magneto apart and putting it together again it seemed like a good idea to use another Lightwin as a reference. Turns out, it too needed coils and ignition leads renewed. No problem lots of parts on hand. Now that I know the plate is removed by removing screws that secure it to hub much is now clear and understood. Big Thank You

                    Some years ago, I put up my hand when editor of chapter newsletter refused reappointment. No idea of what an editor’s duties. Even less aware of use of punctuation. As time passed, writing skills may not have gotten better, but, at least became less bad.  When you take on a job doing something entirely out of your experience take a deep breath and grow into it. Once you know what you are doing  work on doing it better. Each of us has undeveloped ability awaiting discovery.

                    Louis

                     

                     

                    #255900
                    Mumbles
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                      When working on a mag plate, I like to take a photo of both sides before depopulating it. This way, I have something to fall back on for reference when it comes time to put it back together.

                      This photo shows the four screws which must be loosened to remove the complete  mag plate. They don’t have to be removed, just loosened, as they are captured and wont fall out of the plate. The only time they have to be removed from the plate is when the coils are going to be replaced.

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                      #255905
                      crosbyman
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                        Canada Member - 2 Years

                        try this one

                         

                         

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