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  • #176071
    7tcu
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      I took off the flywheel and everything g looks good but I have not figured out what makes the points open up. I am used to seeing a cam come around and open them but I do not see anything that would open the points up so you can set the gap. What am I missing?

      #176073
      Buccaneer
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        I have not opened up a Zephyr in years, but is the cam inside the flywheel?

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        #176074
        7tcu
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          It is coned shaped inside the flywheel that probably opens the points, but I don’t see any cam, it all looks concentric, but it could be I am just eye balling the fly wheel. So as the flywheel opens the points, how would you go about setting the gap.

          #176075
          frankr
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            Same here, too many years, too many tears But I’d be looking for a cam ground on the flywheel hub where it sticks down between the points. It was fairly common practice, but I can’t say for the zephyr.

            #176082
            7tcu
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              Giving a good look, one side to the cone in the flywheel looks thicker than the other side and would open up the points. and as setting the points it looks like you just insert the points in its holder and clamp the down and they are set. this set of points fit in slot and then are clamped down. looks like it was engineered so you don’t have to set them.

              #176101
              Mumbles
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                The cam is ground into the crankshaft. Look closely and you can see it. The flat end of the points pushrod contacts the crank in this area.

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                • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by Mumbles.
                #176117
                7tcu
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                  My Zephyr is a model 4404 and is different from the picture you sent, so the cam has to be in the flywheel. Too much distance from the shaft to the points for a cam on the shaft.

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                  • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by Mumbles.
                  #176124
                  Mumbles
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                    If you roll those felt oiling wicks back you should see the pushrods which ride on the crank and open the points. If your points are not opening or can’t be adjusted, either the pushrods are missing or they are severely worn.

                    If you loosen the clamp screw on the bottom of the mag plate, you will be able to lift the plate right off the motor. This will make it easier to see the pushrods and the corresponding notch in the crank.

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                    #176130
                    7tcu
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                      Yes, the end of the points are under the felt, and the cone in side the flywheel is what opens and closes the points. The cone looks concentric but is not. It is thicker on one side to open and close e the point.

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                      • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by Mumbles.
                      #176145
                      Mumbles
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                        Ok, then please explain how you are going to set the points without an access hole in the flywheel for a feeler gauge?

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