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  • #73935
    Buccaneer
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      I finished putting it together and tried a "bench" run.
      The first, second, third, fourth pulls were hopeful.
      Kept opening the carb needle a little at a time,
      until I decided it was flooding. Longest I had it
      running was about 3 seconds. ๐Ÿ™
      Then it was lunch time. I haven’t done an actual
      compression test on it, but know now that it has
      rings on the piston, it’s better!
      Right now the little Thor built engine is like the
      "God of Blunder"…… perhaps tomorrow it
      will be mighty once more?


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      #73938
      bobw
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        Can’t be long now! Sure looks great too!!

        Bob

        1937 Champion D2C Deluxe Lite Twin
        1954 Johnson CD-11
        1957 Evinrude Fastwin 18
        1958 Johnson QD-19
        1958 Johnson FD-12
        1959 Johnson QD-20

        โ€œEvery 20 minute job is only a broken bolt away from a 3-day project.โ€
        "Every time you remove a broken or seized bolt an angel gets his wings."

        #73943
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          Did a compression test. First pull at 60 psi, topped
          out at 67 after third pull. I would think that would
          be enough compression to start it, but I’m thinking
          there’s a little too much "drag" between the power head
          and lower unit.
          I’m going to make a plate to bolt on the flywheel puller
          holes so I can spin the engine over with a drill.
          The flywheel taper is precarious enough, so I don’t
          want to spin the engine with the flywheel nut.
          Hopefully spinning it over with the drill will start and loosen up
          the engine and drive train a little more,
          or loosen it up more, then start!

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          #74051
          Buccaneer
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            Tried starting the ThorKing yesterday with the drill.
            Sounded like it was firing interminttently,
            at times. I had better luck the first day trying to start it
            with the rope…… it actually stayed running by itself about
            15 seconds. Yesterday, as soon as I let up on the drill it would die.
            Decided today to re-check the compression while spinning it
            over with the drill, and watching the spark plug at the same time.
            Noticed that it sparked good at first, then not at all, then once
            in a while. Compression maxed out at 73 psi.
            Pulled the flywheel to see what was up with the spark.
            I found out that they don’t make JBWeld like the use to. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
            Keyway was wallowed out again, key cocked sideways,
            cam wiggled back and forth about 1/8" on the crank, and
            JBWeld "dust" all over.
            I may have to box up the little Sea King and send it to Mumbles
            to fix the keyway. ๐Ÿ™‚ or go to plan B!
            The story goes that Carl Kiekahfer used crankshafts out
            of WaterWitch’s to get the Wards rejects going for re-sale.
            I have a single cylinder, froze up, parts Water Witch, just wondering
            if it’s possible it’s crankshaft would be a "swap" for my bad crank??
            The "I think I can" video….
            https://youtu.be/R-tMDv_mZ6M


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            #74130
            The Boat House
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              quote Buccaneer:

              The story goes that Carl Kiekahfer used crankshafts out
              of WaterWitch’s to get the Wards rejects going for re-sale.
              I have a single cylinder, froze up, parts Water Witch, just wondering
              if it’s possible it’s crankshaft would be a “swap” for my bad crank??


              I’M sure I have a crankshaft in a box of Waterwitch parts for one of them.
              Not sure its condition. I can dig it out and post a picture with some
              dimensions to see if it would be worth getting into your motor if you like.
              Or I can just send you the one I have if you think it would work.

              #74131
              Mumbles
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                What kind of cap is that sitting on the condenser? It looks too small to be an Orange Drop.

                #74144
                Buccaneer
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                  Mumbles,
                  Regarding the caps, I’m not sure what the original "orange drop" cap was,
                  but I’ve been using these from Digi Key……
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                  0.2ยตF Film Capacitor 400V Polypropylene (PP), Metallized Radial
                  Digi-Key Part Number P12106-ND
                  Manufacturer Part Number
                  ECW-F4204JL
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                  Tubs, Regarding the Water Witch crankshaft. I have a "froze-up" Water Witch
                  I could tear down to compare, should I decide to go that route.
                  Was laying in bed last night thinking about it, but now that I have
                  my new main bearings "fit" to the current crankshaft, and
                  the crankcase hermetically sealed, I decided to hold off on that idea.
                  Instead, today I tack welded the key in the crankshaft with the
                  mig welder, then spent a while with the air grinder getting rid
                  of excess weld.
                  Put the mag back on, and no spark. ๐Ÿ™
                  Got the Stevens tester out of winter’s hibernation and the coil,
                  and cap tested good. Re-cleaned the points, and it seemed to
                  spark great spinning it over. Put the carb and fuel tank back on.
                  Wrapped the rope around and gave it a mighty pull. Nothing.
                  repeating that about 25 times, and never fired once. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
                  Before I put the carb back on, I gave the crankcase a good shot
                  of fogging oil, but I don’t think that’s the problem.
                  Squirted gas in the spark plug hole, and still nothing.
                  Back to the drawing board tomorrow.
                  If it doesn’t run soon I’m sending it back to Wards for warranty work!

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                  #74154
                  gofastgramps
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                    I had a problem with mine . weak to no spark. I had the magnets recharged and had good spark.

                    #74162
                    Buccaneer
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                      Gary, the magnets "seem" okay. I do have a charger, so I could
                      try "zapping" the flywheel if I can come up with the right blocks
                      to fit the flywheel.
                      Thanks.

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                      #74263
                      simoner1
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                        I noticed you mounted the modern capacitor in parallel with the old capacitor? or is the old capacitor no longer connected to the terminal?
                        Just curious as to whether you now have two capacitors in parallel and the impact this may have on the charge/discharge cycle.

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