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  • #9986
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      According to the article, Elto made the Speedster in three different
      horse powers. My Speedster has the 310 number on it, so I’m
      told it’s a 1930 Senior Speedster, 14 hp.
      In looking at the Evinrude model number list, I don’t see
      any 8 or 12 HP motors listed.
      What would be the model numbers for these, and one
      with the "Hi-Speed" option?

      Standard Speedster
      Model # –
      B x S – 2-1/2" x 2"
      8 HP

      Special Speedster
      Model #-
      Larger B x S
      HP – 12 ?

      Senior Speedster
      Model # 310
      Extra heavy duty construction
      Standard under water silencer
      HP – 14

      Hi-Speed Option Speedster
      "lighter construction"


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      #76435
      pm-t2
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        1928 service speedster
        model 355 – s/n 60000-69999

        1929
        model 300 and 301 – s/n 80000-89999
        model 318 and 331 – service speedster with rudder
        model 319, 320, 346 – service speedster with underwater exhaust
        model 340 and 341 – Special Speedster
        model 302 and 303 – Hi-Speed Speedster
        model 333 – Hi-Speed Speedster with underwater exhaust

        1930
        model 348 – Hi-Speed Service Speedster
        Model 310 and 312 – Sr Speedster with battery ignition
        model 311 and 313 – Sr Speedster electric

        1931
        model 905, 906, 907 – Special Speedster
        Model 310 and 312 – Sr Speedster with battery ignition
        model 311 and 313 – Sr Speedster electric

        1932
        model 905, 906, 907 – Special Speedster
        Model 310 and 312 – Sr Speedster with battery ignition
        model 311 and 313 – Sr Speedster electric

        1933
        model 905, 906, 907 – Special Speedster
        Model 361 and 363 – Sr Speedster with cord start
        model 362 and 364 – Sr Speedster with knob start

        1934
        model 365, 366 – Senior Speedster

        That’s all I got. Taken out of the Evinrude-Elto model year guide. Hope it helps.

        Where more than one model number for a given year – higher number usually 5 inches longer

        Best,
        PM T2

        #76437
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          PM T2, Thanks for all that data. Much appreciated.
          Interesting, but I see no mention of the Standard Speedster.
          I’m not sure what the "Evinrude-Elto model year guide"
          is exactly, but is it floating around the internet?
          Thanks
          Update – just learned in "Old Outboard Book" that
          the Service and Standard speedster are one in the same, and
          In 1929 the Standard / Service Speedster was 7 hp. It was "upped" to 8 hp in 1931
          Also, that the High-Speed Speedsters had aluminum pistons, Auxillary air intakes, etc.

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          #76443
          pm-t2
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            Canada Member - 2 Years

            Most of that information (but not all) is contained in the model-year guide that appears in Peter Hunn’s "The Old Outboard Book".

            The missing parts are found in what I consider to be one of the best model-year guide booklets I’ve ever found. It was printed as "Outboard Motor Model & Serial No. Guide Prior to 1960". It was compiled by the Maple Leaf Chapter of the AOMCI back in the 1990’s.

            This goes up to 1940, there’s more that goes to 1959 but this is the important part….

            PM T2

            #76445
            wbeaton
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              Canada Member - 2 Years

              I have the Maple Leaf Chapter model year guide. It has the same ELTO Lightwin Model C serial number mistake as the Peter Hunn book. I’ve always wondered where the mistake originated. The Maple Leaf model guide is excellent because it includes the Canadian serial numbers, as well.

              Wayne
              Upper Canada Chapter

              uccaomci.com

              #76456
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                Thanks again guys for the info.
                Interesting enough, none of the data shows the
                Standard Speedster hp being "upped" to 8 hp in 1931,
                as PM T2’s article mentioned.

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                #76462
                pm-t2
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                  Canada Member - 2 Years

                  If you read carefully, you will find (or not find, in this case) that the Service Speedster doesn’t actually show up in the model-year guide for 1931.

                  All service Speedsters are recognized as 7 HP motors, so where the 8 HP rating comes from, I have no clue. Could be that there were plans in t he works for such an animal, but it never actually happened.

                  It was listed in the catalog as part of the Speedster family, but doesn’t show up in the model-year list. Where did it go, eh?

                  The 8 HP motor that did show up in 1932 was the Service "A", which should not be confoozed with the Service Speedster.

                  Best,
                  PM T2

                  #76468
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                    quote PM T2:

                    If you read carefully, you will find (or not find, in this case) that the Service Speedster doesn’t actually show up in the model-year guide for 1931.

                    All service Speedsters are recognized as 7 HP motors, so where the 8 HP rating comes from, I have no clue. Could be that there were plans in t he works for such an animal, but it never actually happened.

                    It was listed in the catalog as part of the Speedster family, but doesn’t show up in the model-year list. Where did it go, eh?

                    The 8 HP motor that did show up in 1932 was the Service “A”, which should not be confoozed with the Service Speedster.

                    Best,
                    PM T2

                    I never seen a date in that article, but I was also thinking that it was
                    a possibility that they were touting something that never came to
                    fruition.
                    I was wondering about that "Service A" in 1932, but haven’t looked
                    for a photo of one yet.
                    All interesting!

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                    #76476
                    pm-t2
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                      The Speedster clip came from this here booklet, which is where I got the year from.

                      Best,
                      PM T2

                      #76481
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                        They must not have known about the "Great Depression".
                        Life looked good…… electric start, and remote steering.
                        Wonder how the throttle was hooked up……. then again,
                        I don’t remember seeing anything but a couple of poppet
                        valves when I took the carb off……. will have to look again!

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